Health Care debate; some notes on CO2; a performance on a new musical instrument designed by Da Vinci

View 799 Tuesday, November 19, 2013

“Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency.”

President Barack Obama, January 31, 2009

 

Christians to Beirut. Alawites to the grave.

Syrian Freedom Fighters

 

What we have now is all we will ever have.

Conservationist motto

 

If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan.

Barrack Obama, famously.

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I’ve just (1600) had a wisdom tooth removed after it suddenly sprouted pains; fortunately without complications, but I am to take it easy for a couple of days.

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Health Care Discussion:

This continues a long discussion about health care insurance and the Affordable Health Care Act. My correspondent is a Northwestern physician part owner of a clinic and far more devoted to individual health care than to politics. He’s also a good guy.

Before launching into a discussion of some of the points raised on Dr. Pournelle’s web site, I’d like to make the point that I’m not an expert in health care economics and Jerry has asked me to discuss the ACA as a supporter of it. I’m not an ardent supporter, but I believe that discussion is how we come to agreement or improvement and I would argue that discussion about how we change the US healthcare system is needed.

Personally, I agree that there is much flawed with ACA, but it is acting as catalyst for discussion. For the purposes of this discussion I am attempting to put aside my cynicism about politics and motives.

I’m convinced that healthcare in the US needs to change. I’m less sure that the ACA is the solution to that change, but it is the solution we are currently discussing as a nation and it has some merit.

Does Healthcare in the US need to change?

Let me start by discussing the belief that the US has the "best" healthcare system in the world. There are many metrics used to analyze a countries health care systems. Many of them suggest that the US is not anywhere near the top in most metrics. For the sake of simplicity lets look at three of them:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Health_Organization_ranking_of_health_systems

We can go look at the original document at http://www.who.int/en/ or we can use the Wikipedia overview. In brief, in this document, the US ranks 50th in life expectancy, we are at or close to the worst in heart and lung disease, sexually transmitted diseases, pregnancies in adolescents, homicides, and disability. We spent more per capita than any other country on the list in 2011 to reach 50th place.

All of that is horrible news. We can argue that the WHO is biased and unfair, of course and look for other studies:

http://www.bloomberg.com/visual-data/best-and-worst/most-efficient-health-care-countries

In this overview the US spends the most on health care on a relative cost basis with the worst outcome. and ranks 46th among studied countries.

If we look a the Commonwealth Fund report on how the performance of the US health care system compares internationally http://www.commonwealthfund.org/Publications/Fund-Reports/2010/Jun/Mirror-Mirror-Update.aspx?page=all We find that we rank last among the 7 nations studied in the report despite being the most expensive. Here is a brief overview with quality measures. http://www.commonwealthfund.org/usr_doc/site_docs/slideshows/MirrorMirror/MirrorMirror.html

Quality is a hard thing to measure and I’d agree with Dr. Lewis (https://www.jerrypournelle.com/chaosmanor/?page_id=1074 ) that we have "the most advanced care in the world is available here." I’m less certain that we deliver that advanced care to everyone that needs it nor that our costs for that delivery are the best and I think an argument can be made that numerous countries do a better job than we do at delivering advanced care. All that said, we do a reasonable job for many people, albeit at a high cost.

While there are numerous metrics to compare health care between and among countries, by many measures the US does poorly. We can, and often do, deliver superb care. The discussion about how we make care better needs to continue and, again, if the ACA focuses attention on health care, that is a good thing.

Who should we cover and who pays for it?

I’ll break this into two parts:

Part 1) Jerry Pournelle asks "…why I am expected to pay for someone else’s misfortunes."

Part 2) Should every procedure be available to everyone at all times?

Part 1) Jerry Pournelle asks "…why I am expected to pay for someone else’s misfortunes."

Part of the answer is that you already pay. You directly pay for Medicaid and state, county, and municipal medical care. Indeed, we average 8,508 per capita in healthcare expenses (OECD 2013) and we spend almost 5000 per capita on health care in public expenditure per year (OECD 2013). If we look at the public expenditure per capita and compare it to the top 12 countries in the world, we spend the second most of any country (trailing only Norway).

So if we look at 2011 data from the OECD 2013 report we are spending MORE in public dollars than all but ONE of the countries who have "universal" health care.

So we spend more privately and more in public funds. By one measure, you are paying more now just in public funds than some countries pay for all of their public care.

Thus one reason why you might pay for "someone else’s misfortune" is if it reduced the overall cost of health care to you in the long run or if it provided a huge benefit to society of 100 billion/year. (https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.whitehouse.gov%2Fassets%2Fdocuments%2FCEA_Health_Care_Report.pdf)

Will the ACA reduce the amount of expenditure? The goal of the ACA is to expand coverage, to improve quality of care and reduce health care expenditure. That is the hope and the promise of the ACA and the area where I fear we have work to do as a nation. The cynical view says "of course not, all government policy costs more than what it replaces." That is certainly true if we don’t discuss this and keep after it. I’d argue, perhaps with way too much optimism, that we need to do better.

At the risk of being labeled "paternalistic" or a "liberal" many, many of the insurance plans I see are awful. The common response to that is "well, the user picked it and they knew what they were doing and they face the consequences of their actions." Well, of course, unless of course the insurance plan was written in gobblygook and the insurance company mislead you or if the insurance company denied you coverage because a pre-existing condition or if the patient is on a very limited income.

Part 2) Should every procedure be available to everyone at all times?

This is a very difficult question and one which is far beyond the scope of a few lines on a blog. The easy answer and the one by which most of us in practice is that the same care should be available to everyone regardless of income. However, the discussion is very difficult. If, for example, it costs 300,000 to extend life by an average of 10 minutes, should we do it? How about if it extends life by 4 weeks? A year? Who decides? Does it matter if its Dick Cheney or Bill Gates?

Should a 4 pack a day smoker with severe lung disease and a high Childs-Pugh score (bad liver disease) be offered Coronary Bypass if his life expectancy in one year is calculated to be 35%? Again, who decides? If society has limited resources, how does society decide how to use them? There are never infinite resources and the current system doesn’t provide guidelines for physicians. This is an absolutely critical discussion and one which can’t be allowed to degenerate into naive discussions of "death panels". Is there money in ANY country to pay for everything for everyone? I agree that if you can pay for it out of pocket, who cares. However paying for it out of pocket is beyond most of us. So how do we decide?

Can the ACA work? The idea, as I see it, was to improve insurance coverage by expanding Medicaid and by setting up insurance exchanges where people without access to affordable insurance can buy standardized policies and might be able to get a subsidy to help defray the cost of the the policy. This has a somewhat hidden benefit in that such a system would not tie insurance to a job and let people switch jobs. Because insurance is usually more expensive for a small company than for a large company, small companies are often less likely to provide insurance for employees. The exchanges don’t eliminate the gap between employees and individuals but the tax break that companies get is mirrored by the subsidy for the individual. One concern about ACA was that it would force insurance companies to only cover the very ill, the ACA put in place a penalty for the uninsured. (The employer penalty has been delayed).

Jerry and many others have suggested that this increase of insured will increase the use of health care and thus drive up spending. This is valid and the ACA attempts to slow the growth of health care costs. This, to me, is where we need to focus a lot of attention.

Can it work? I’ve no idea, as yet.

One of my long term friends, a very conservative neurosurgeon, is watching my posts on your site. He said to me "you are both brave and foolish" given the venom about the ACA. He agrees, however, that we need to discuss these topics..really they are NOT discussed outside of medicine. Who decides about who gets what health care? How do we decide?

Northwestern Physician

I continue to raise the more fundamental question, to what are people entitled by reason of citizenship, or, lately, sheer residence legal or not? Your father lay with your mother, and you now claim a portion of my goods and earnings to pay for your health care although you and I have no relationship other than you live a few miles away in a part of the city I seldom visit. Why should I pay that?

Now of course I am often exhorted to act as my brother’s keeper, and reminded of my obligations to those who have few to none of the goods of fortune and are in need. That, however, is a religions, not a political obligation, and seems ironic when made by those who say that a state court cannot hang a copy of the Ten Commandments in the courtroom (although apparently a pagan statue of the goddess Justice is all right). Laws such as local Sunday closing laws passed ostensibly for economic have been struck down because it was found that the “real” motivation for their passage was religious; surely laws confiscating property – “taking a bit from the haves to give it to the have-nots who need it so much” – have no greater validity?

And yet: as Burke said, for a man to love his country, his country ought to be lovely; and few would call lovely a place where the needs of the poor are not considered. Of course that then leads us to the question of the deserving vs. the undeserving poor. How much does society owe Alfred Doolittle? More to the point, how much do you owe him?

Defending the Affordable Care Act on economic grounds fails: the effect of the Act, f it worked exactly as planned, would be to require the young and healthy to pay roughly the same premiums as the older and less healthy. To compensate for this confiscation, as many as possible will receive subsidies. To pay for those subsidies the government will have either to raise taxes or borrow money. Raising taxes means once again that someone productive will have to pay more to support someone unproductive, and raises the question of how much do the productive owe the unproductive? As to borrowing money, this simply puts the burden of supporting the sick and elderly on those coming after them – a transfer of money from the young and healthy to the elderly. Of course it may have the effect of transferring the burden to Chinese bankers if the government can’t continue this pyramid scheme, but there is always the hope that Moore’s Law will so increase productivity that we can support the unproductive in a style to which they would like to be accustomed. We seem to be well on the way to that.

Note that while the Affordable Care Act seems to be an insurance pool, so did the Social Security Act; but over time the Social Security System was jiggered to allow disability payments to people who had never in their lives paid anything into the system. After all , it had collected more money that was paid out, and here was this pool of money, why not give some to the have-nots who need it so much? I suspect the Affordable Care Act system will never produce even a temporary surplus: health care costs will rise to exceed income, just as education costs always rise to exceed revenue available. The Affordable Care Act begins with subsidies to be paid by various manipulations, but the revenue sources such as taxes on medical equipment such as crutches and hypodermic needles are vulnerable to political pleading – while other subsidies come from cuts in previous subsidies. None of this increases productivity or reduces demand.

As a beneficiary of the old system – Kaiser paid out a lot of money for my 30 days of hard radiation treatment with frequent tests, all this after a number of high quality people tried to figure out what to do with an inoperable lump – I am hardly going to denounce it. But I can make the case that I paid into a medical insurance account for most of my life, and I paid into Social Security through the Self Employment tax for many decades and in fact still do. This worked like insurance. The affordable Care Act creates a class of entitlement without much in the way of obligation. It does not do so very efficiently.

I agree that the system we have needs reform, but I am not at all sure that the right way to go is through government. I keep remembering Tocqueville on the difference between America and Europe: America did things through what he called “the associations” and which we now seem to call Non Government Organizations. Whatever one calls them, they have been very effective and a lot more efficient than government. They might still be if government did not attempt to drive many of them out of business.

We will continue this another time. We are certainly agreed that what we have needs reform. I contend that the Affordable Care Act is doomed to economic failure and will need many fixes long after the exchange problems are solved.

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Subject: The unasked question

Jerry, you’ve been asking why you should be taxed to provide health care to the undeserving poor, but I think there’s a question that needs to be answered first: "Why should the government help the undeserving poor?"

Now, I’d like to point out that I’m surviving right now on Social Security and VA benefits. However, I did spend most of my adult life working and paying into Social Security, and I did serve a hitch in Uncle Sam’s Navy, including spending about 7 months in Tonkin Gulf back in ’72, so I think it’s safe to say I’ve earned what I’m getting now.

However, what I’d like to know is why healthy men and women who have never worked a day in their lives and wouldn’t know what a paycheck was if they saw one should have their bills, healthcare and otherwise, paid for by society. I’m not saying that they shouldn’t; after all, there is such a thing as charity, and unlike Ebenezer Scrooge, I’m not suggesting that they be sent to either prison nor a workhouse. I’m just asking why it’s the government’s job, because unless it is, there’s no justification for taxing anybody to provide compulsory charity.

Charity is voluntary giving, i.e. the work of NGO’s, also known as associations. By definition it is not charity if I vote to send a tax collector to take money from Bill Gates in order to support you, or from you to support the homeless man who sleeps under the bridge on Laurel Canyon.  I may be my brother’s keeper, but that is a religious obligation, not one I can impose on my next door neighbor. 

In particular, should I pay for a heart transplant for a 55 year old massively obese man who has smoked all his life?  Perhaps if he is my brother or my neighbor, but how do I justify sending the tax collector to you for an involuntary contribution.

The Affordable Care Act in effect requires those who consume the least health care to pay insurance premiums close to the premiums of those who consume the most health care; then it adjusts that by subsidies to those who are paying too much (but this is of course means tested).  It also borrows money to accomplish this. The result is that the young and healthy are charged wither immediately or with debts that must be paid.  Of course some will never be productive and will never pay anything – so the productive and those who will be productive in future are being charged to pay for the health care of today’s elderly and sick. 

Now I can understand trying to nationalize the whole system and being done with it; there could be a number of efficiencies introduced that way, including free medical education for those qualified who want to become physicians.  (And those who want to opt out of the national system would then get to pay some of their education costs before they could become concierge doctors…)

 

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This sums up a lot about CO2:

The nearly 400 ppm of CO2 in our atmosphere constitutes a (currently) fixed number of molecules of the gas.

If you were standing on Mars you would have significantly more CO2 (and nothing else) above you than on Earth. So one would expect that the “greenhouse” effect would be much more intense even after accounting for the r**2 problem. So why is the temperature so much colder?. Turns out that the radiation effectiveness has already been used up. You are witnessing a radiation absorption effect similar to Zeno’s Paradox. Each increment of gas increase has much less effect on the ability to adsorb energy. By the time you reach 20 ppm you have absorbed just about all the energy in the radiation impinging on the Earth. (or emitted from it). Increasing to 1000 ppm would have almost zero change in the amount of energy adsorbed.

As you note , is only the water vapor that does the real work; a much wider adsorption band (as well as much greater concentration). And the clouds that result from the water vapor greatly complicate the solution. Some clouds increase energy adsorption, some decrease it. In fact the problems are so great that the AGW crowd just ignore them when they build their models. Their models are fine for their idealized planet, but it is not Earth. So their conclusions do not apply here. (sort of like the start of a physics problem – “Imagine a spherical cow …”

The Ice Ball Earth scenarios require a CO2 concentration of 20% CO2 (vs. current .04%) to stop the advancing glaciers.

Could we survive those conditions; No, we give out at 4% CO2 because of poisoning effects (I have been in 2% CO2 for long periods). The plants on the other hand would love it. Of course they would not be a green mass over everything, they would just find some other limiting nutrient. (Greenhouse growers try to have high CO2 by adding CO2(1000 ppm is about as much as they can afford) but in the 45 seconds it takes a mass of air to travel the 100 foot length of a greenhouse (cooling times) the air drops from 1000 ppm to 300 (the point at which some plants stop growing from lack of CO2)

Earl

Thanks. My general view is that a long open ended experiment on increased CO2 in the atmosphere has dangers I’d prefer not to risk, but that’s for another time. Our current CO2 reduction programs have great costs including political; fortunately technology is making energy cheaper; the lower energy costs raise productivity and economic growth, which is about the only way out of our current economic problems – problems exacerbated by the tendency of people to be generous with other people’s money.

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For those with a musical interest:

 

http://www.thisiscolossal.com/2013/11/viola-organista/

 

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Freedom is not free. Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free.

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Eventually we’ll get to the good news

View 799 Monday, November 18, 2013

“Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency.”

President Barack Obama, January 31, 2009

 

Christians to Beirut. Alawites to the grave.

Syrian Freedom Fighters

 

What we have now is all we will ever have.

Conservationist motto

 

If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan.

Barrack Obama, famously.

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The general media has been desperate to find some good news, but there hasn’t been much, and now the story is out that the typhoon in Asia and the late tornadoes in Illinois are indications of climate change due to man-made CO2. It’s global warming manifesting itself.

That seems clear enough to many pundits but it’s not clear to me, particularly because we don’t seem to have had any global warming in the past decade, and I don’t know any mechanism for generating monster typhoons and late season tornadoes in cyclone alley and points north and east. It may be informative to look at speculations about what will come in 2013 made back at the early days of the tornado season: http://www.climatecentral.org/news/an-in-depth–look-at-tornadoes-climate-change-15745 .

Whatever one concludes about the increase of CO2 – which is certainly happening – we need to remember one thing: CO2 is not a very effective greenhouse gas compared to water vapor. As Freeman Dyson has reminded us for years, CO2 isn’t going to have much of a warming effect except in cold, dry places. Now one theory of CO2 and climate is that the CO2 warms things up enough to increase the water vapor which increases the greenhouse effect, but so far that is more speculation than theory: to the best of my knowledge there aren’t any interesting and tested models incorporating that effect.

Climate science is a very complex matter, but there are some clear facts that need to be kept in mind.

One is that CO2 is definitely increasing. We know how to measure it, and we have a good place to measure it from: the top of Mauna Loa at an altitude where atmosphere gasses are well mixed, and there are prevailing winds bringing continuous new samples. Exactly how long it has been since CO2 levels reached what they are isn’t settled because we don’t have such good measurements for past times, but it appears to be about 50 million years ago, at a time when the earth was considerably warmer, the seas were much higher, and the earth for some reason was beginning to cool and the CO2 and sea levels beginning to drop.

Second, while we can come to some agreement as to what temperatures are now, they aren’t all that good. They are getting better but it’s damned hard to come up with a good measure accurate to a tenth of a degree for the right now temperature in your house, or your neighborhood, or your city, or your county, or your nation, or your continent. What do you measure?

The best, I would submit, would be the globe temperature outside exposed to the sky and elements: that would be the temperature inside a standard copper globe painted black inside and out. This measures the combined radiant and conductive temperature, and what most of us would say reflects whether it’s warm or cold. But of course that isn’t what is usually measured even in your living room. Now we want the average temperature in your house, and it gets more complicated. Do we use a globe in each room? Do we skip any rooms? Do we give equal weight to the temperature in the kitchen, the bed rooms (which are not of equal size), the bath room, the TV room? What about the screened in back porch which we spend a lot of time on in summer and fall but not winter?

And as you make the area larger the complexities increase. Global temperature? Land or water? All right, both. Equal weights? By area? Surface or at depths? Wait, we don’t have the atmosphere. While we are at it, getting the temperature in your back yard – do we take that in the sun or the shade? Don’t forget that if we take it at night exposed to the stars, it can get quite cold: the Romans used to make ice cream in the Sahara by exposing a straw lined pit to the stars at night, and covering it with highly polished metal shields in the day time; the straw and the shields kept it from warming up in there, and exposure to the stars exposed it to a radiant environment not far above absolute zero. So I hang my globe thermometer at two meters height where it is exposed to the sky: how many steradians are exposed to sky and how many to fences or buildings? That will make a big difference on a clear starry night, far bigger than the 0.1 degree accuracy we need to discern global warming.

And we haven’t yet got an 0.1 degree accurate temperature for my back yard, much less my neighborhood or city or region or continent, and we’re still talking about land temperatures.

My point is that the assumption that we know the average temperature of the earth to a tenth of a degree is at least disputable, and the belief that the different temperatures we do have taken in the various places we get them from all make use of the same instruments in the same conditions is absolutely and verifiably false.

And we haven’t even got started yet, and it’s time to have lunch with my wife. We’ll continue this later.

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What I hope we can conclude is that while we have a very accurate measure of world CO2 atmospheric levels, we are nowhere near that in coming up with a single measure of global temperature. It is clear that we don’t use the same measures year after year, either. Sometimes they change. Sometimes entire regions don’t report and interpolations have to be used. All of this establishes trends, but to claim accuracies to 0.1 degree C with high confidence is absurd; and even conceding a capability to compare a number representing the average temperature of the globe for 365 days to a comparable number from a year ago, we certainly have no way to compare that to temperatures in the 1800’s when sea temperatures like as not came from putting a mercury thermometer into a bucket of water hauled up onto the deck, and most regions of the earth didn’t report any temperature at all on a daily or even weekly basis.

What we do know is that while the CO2 level has risen dramatically in the past 100 years, the temperatures have not. They have certainly fallen and risen dramatically and undisputedly in the past twelve hundred years. Earth’s climate was considerably warmer then than now, and we have evidence from all over the world. Well, to be exactly accurate, most of that comes from the northern hemisphere, but I know of no theory that allows a really dramatic long term temperature difference between hemispheres so I assume that the whole earth was warmer when there were dairy farms in Greenland, Vines in Nova Scotia then known as Vinland, grapes grown in Scotland and the Border lands, longer crop seasons in continental Europe and China, etc. It’s pretty well undisputed that the climate was all better in Viking times, and stayed that way until just after 1300 when it got to be colder and wetter all over from Greenland to China. By 1500 the climate was colder and wetter everywhere, and there were signs that things had been better in the New World and were now getting worse. In any event the cooling continued to about 1800, after which there was a halt to cooling and a gradual warming. Benjamin Franklin, seeing the dense clouds from erupting volcanoes in Iceland while travelling to Europe, speculated that the volcanic clouds were shading out the sun and causing the climate to be colder, and predicted more glaciers.

Somewhere before 1850 rivers began freezing less solidly in winter, and the spring ice breakups happened earlier and earlier, as recorded in Farmer’s Almanac as well as private diaries. By 1890 the warming trend was obvious, and Arrhenius began his calculation on the effect of increased CO2 from the Industrial Revolution on climate. It was not then considered obvious that warmer weather and longer growing seasons were a bad thing.

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thermal radiation to space

Jerry:

Your comment about Roman ice cream reminded me of an incident from 1962.

I was stationed in Thailand at the ARPA R&D Field Unit. Our job was to do in-theater research that didn’t require combat involvement (that was done by a sister unit in Saigon). One problem was tracking insurgents who waded through paddy fields after dark. It was suggested to us, by a researcher in the US, that this wading should stir up the water, leaving a warmer trail of water from near the bottom, which would contrast with the cooler water on top, where it lost heat quickly at night. So we simply inserted thermometers at several depths in a pond and measured how quickly the temperature dropped after nightfall. It turned out that the temperature dropped very quickly through the whole column of water. The idea that there would be a layer of cooler water on top of a layer of warmer water was simply wrong. Radiation to space was a very real thing, even in tropical Thailand.

Joseph P. Martino

Which is why clouds are important in any model of climate: cloudy areas do not get exposed to space at night.  Of course they don’t get the blazing Sun in daytimes.  And in cold dry places CO2 will definitely have an effect.  In damp areas the water vapor will have absorbed all the re-radiated energy leaving none for the CO2 to affect.

 

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More on this theme later this week.  Meanwhile:

 

Hello Jerry,

I know you like opera, so I thought I would pass this one on to you, just in case it hasn’t already ‘passed through’

http://videos.komando.com/watch/4333/viral-videos-9-year-old-opera-singer-stuns-all?utm_medium=nl&utm_source=tvkim&utm_content=2013-11-09-article-screen-shot-f

Enjoy.

Bob Ludwick=

All I can say is WOW! Brava!

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Freedom is not free. Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free.

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Health Care and Equality, with stories; commercial space; the lost war on drugs; and the Iron Law in action

Mail 798 Wednesday, November 13, 2013

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Commercial Space is real:

6 satellites ready for space

Each one is a 10 cm cube loaded into a dispenser. They will fly to ISS next month. You can post the picture.

Someone told me Von Braun thought kicking sats out the door of a space station was the best way to do it. You heard this? Want to ask your readers? Would love to get a source.

Rich Pournelle

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I remember that everyone thought von Braun said something of that sort, but I don’t recall him saying it when I was listening.

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Subj: Thomas Aquinas and Philosophical Realism

http://wmbriggs.com/blog/?p=9884

Being a report on a Conference featuring, amongst others, Michael Flynn

— yes *that* Michael Flynn! 😎

>>Thomistic realism is the kind of realism you most likely have in mind when you bother to think about the subject at all. Stuff exists, it’s out there; other people exist; trees make noise if nobody is around to hear them fall, and so on. …<<

An antidote to much currently fashionable Stuff and Nonsense.

Rod Montgomery==monty@starfief.com

Mike Flynn is always worth reading when he makes Thomas Aquinas relevant in the modern world. Actually I have always found Aquinas relevant, but one must be careful of the translation, and alas, I no longer read Latin fluently.  Mike is a good teacher of Thomistic philosophy.

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We have a great number of items on health care. I have selected a broad sample.

The President on Healthcare Coverage and the Midterms

Jerry,

For those that only believe in the nuanced, here are the President Obama’s own words:

"So let me begin by saying this to you and to the American people: I know that there are millions of Americans who are content with their health care coverage — they like their plan and, most importantly, they value their relationship with their doctor. They trust you. And that means that no matter how we reform health care, we will keep this promise to the American people: If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. (Applause.) If you like your health care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health care plan, period. (Applause.) No one will take it away, no matter what. My view is that health care reform should be guided by a simple principle: Fix what’s broken and build on what works. And that’s what we intend to do."

President Obama’s remarks at the Annual Conference of the American Medical Association on June 15, 2009, Hyatt Regency Chicago, Chicago, Illinois <http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/remarks-president-annual-conference-american-medical-association>

No nuance there. Nowhere did the President say, "for those that have non-junk policies," like his apologists are saying.

Although President Barack Obama has no election of his to worry about, I hope the consequences for the Democrats in the midterm election are as grave as those that befell President George H W Bush after

"I’m the one who won’t raise taxes. My opponent now says he’ll raise them as a last resort, or a third resort. When a politician talks like that, you know that’s one resort he’ll be checking into. My opponent won’t rule out raising taxes. But I will. The Congress will push me to raise taxes, and I’ll say no, and they’ll push, and I’ll say no, and they’ll push again, and I’ll say to them, ‘Read my lips: no new taxes.’ "

President George H. W. Bush’s Address Accepting the Presidential Nomination at the Republican National Convention in New Orleans, August 18, 1988 <http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=25955#axzz2jJOspjAE>

Special healthcare for the Congress, the President, and the Courts, and unspecial care for us.

A pox on their houses! Tar, Feathers!

As Bill the Cat would say, "Pfft!"

Regards, Charles Adams

 

 

Insurance and state rights

I am continually floored by otherwise reasonable people repeatedly comparing state mandated auto insurance with federally mandated health insurance. It’s a false comparison.

Setting aside the significant difference between state powers and federal powers for a moment, auto insurance is generally required under the notion that driving an automobile can be inherently dangers to others should you fail to drive in a competent manner and the insurance is their protection from your negligence.

How is requiring a single man to pay for coverage which includes maternity leave protecting anyone from his actions? How is having health insurance protecting anyone other than that person?

As far as the state/federal issue goes I find an appalling number of people have no understanding of federalism, no concept of state rights and still fewer see states as sovereign governments.

Regards

Will

Will Nonya

 

States Rights is just another way of saying that the Constitution created “A Nation of States” i.e. a Federal Republic. It was never intended to be a national democracy. And our school system has few civics teachers who understand the point of federalism and states to begin with.

From the Sacrament Business Journal via Weasel Zippers:

Specific language in the contracts major health insurers signed with Covered California to participate in the exchange required them to cancel the individual coverage which is at the center of a growing national debate.

Anthem Blue Cross, Kaiser Permanente,Health Net and Blue Shield of California have confirmed to the San Francisco Business Times that their Covered California contracts, signed in August or September, required the cancellations. Other plans on the exchange are subject to the same contract language.

More: http://www.bizjournals.com/sacramento/news/2013/11/01/covered-calif-insurers-non-compliant-can.html

On a healthcare related note my Dad, a WWII vet, called the VA today to get an appointment for his annual checkup. They scheduled him on a Saturday! Told him they that they had to start making appointments on Saturdays due to a sudden ‘increase in business’. Hmmm….

-Blair

 

Jerry,

http://blogs.wsj.com/peggynoonan/2013/11/04/obamas-catastrophic-victory/

One reason for the increased cost of Obamacare policies – MUCH higher taxes on insurance companies to pay subsidies http://blog.al.com/breaking/2013/11/rep_mo_brooks_blue_cross_to_pa.html <http://blog.al.com/breaking/2013/11/rep_mo_brooks_blue_cross_to_pa.html>

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/363083/obamas-weapon-mass-deception-has-senate-dem-fingerprints-all-over-it-deroy-murdock

Ted Cruz is starting to look less opportunistic and more realistic

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/11/04/the_obamacare_death_panels_have_arrived

http://www.nationaljournal.com/white-house/will-insularity-incompetence-and-lies-doom-obamacare-20131104

http://ph.news.yahoo.com/n-korea-developing-electromagnetic-pulse-weapons-135357782.html

Jim

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Health Care, Freedom, and Equality: More

Dear Jerry,

Along with a number of others, I wanted to respond to your friend the doctor. You tended to focus on the obligation or lack of it from the Constitution (or elsewhere) to make me pay for your health care. While that concerns me too, maybe a simpler issue is more likely to engage your friend. He thinks that loads of other countries have better medical care than the US. I doubt it; I have relatives in Israel, which is pretty modern and actually at the forefront of developing new medical technology – and everyone there knows that you go to the USA for most major operations.

But say that it’s so; these other countries are better. Does that mean that the United States should set up a medical system that matches them? I don’t think so. Our current federal government is just not capable of it.

Most of my relatives are very liberal. I remember asking them five years ago, as the struggle took place over the health care bill: “Tell me the truth. Is this the health care bill that you pictured?” Pretty much all of them answered me, “Of course not. They were going to raise taxes and pay for everyone’s health care! It’s insane: How did they end up with this thing that’s written by health insurance companies and Big Pharma?”

A question for my relatives, and your friend the doctor: Can someone believe in both these statements, or are they contradictory? 1) It is appropriate for the US federal government to run the Coast Guard and help build the interstate highway system. 2) The United States federal government is currently controlled by politically connected special interests, is acting as a conduit to funnel money from middle-class taxpayers to the special interests that control it, and is right now more barnacles than ship. It is currently very difficult for that government to get anything worthwhile done.

Is it possible for a rational person to believe both of them? In fact, don’t most rational people conservative or liberal believe both?

And if they do, what are they arguing about? It isn’t proposition (1) (which makes it seem odd that so many liberals quote it as proof of something). It isn’t even (2), as everyone basically agrees on that as well. It’s a corollary of (2): Given that that is so, we should be very reluctant to put the US federal government in charge of anything important.

Dear friend doctor. I am sorry. I share your concern for the sick poor people of America. You aren’t going to be able to help them this way. Regardless of your plans and intentions, what you _actually end up with_ will be far more costly, far more cumbersome, and will kill far more people than it helps. The rules created will all be the result of political deals somewhere in Washington, nothing to do with what American health care needs. Perhaps you’ve noticed that this is happening already. I work at one of the premier teaching and research hospitals in America, and I can already see how we are diverting resources to handle edicts from Washington that force us to do things that aren’t good ideas for us. And we’re huge; we can handle it. Smaller hospitals will get killed, and so will medical practices. Doctors will shift to concierge practices where the patients are 100% responsible for dealing with insurance. Some of my doctors already have. All the lucky people who can now get insurance for the first time may find that they simultaneously cannot get doctors or hospitals.

That’s all assuming that they eventually get their website working properly. Have you noticed yet that they are incompetent?

Join the real Reality Based Community.

mkr

 

Yes They Can

Pass now to days of universal health care: can the Mayo Clinic exist? For that matter, can “Cadillac Plans” such as I have had with Kaiser for more than twenty-five years continue to exist under single payer universal health care? Could the Kaiser system itself survive?

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To answer your question… YES, if you are in Congress…

“Why should Frank Herbert have access to better health care than I can get?” Or Bill Gates, or – but you get the idea. If we ever get to single payer universal health care that will be a question that must be answered. Why should anyone have access to something better than everyone can afford?

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I have to ask if these expensive procedures exist because of the research that went into creating them?

Was the motivation for doing the research from the expectation of a large financial reward?

Once the procedures were created, was there a financial incentive to make them cheaper and more mainstream?

Places like the Mayo Clinic can develop new techniques because they exist. They can do that here in the US, or in Borneo and Thailand, or some other more civilized place.

 

You wrote: "I invite comment. If we have universal health care, will it allow Bill Gates and Frank Herbert options that you and I won’t have? How? Will physicians be allowed to offer concierge practice to the rich? How will physicians be paid?"

My answer: VIPs will always get needed treatment, whether they be useful celebrities, really rich donors, or party officials. Streisand, Soros, and Sibelius will get whatever they need. The Koch brothers will get their care from their personal physicians and the black market. You and I are screwed.

But surely the Affordable Care Act will see that we all get affordable care? This is its intention.

 

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Jerry,

I guess, in these chaotic times, that you and perhaps myself have lived past the time (times?) where the county doctor comes to the door. I suppose we have to find him and go to his door. Whether he will accept cash payment or not is an interesting question. I suppose maybe I and I hope not you, have lived to the time of the old curse "may you live in interesting times."

I imagine that the system set up will render my payments to the ‘independent’ physician moot. I imagine that the quality of care that I receive from undocumented ‘doctors’ in time may be diluted, you may however benefit. You know your doctors, or at least trust them.

I can go with the state sponsored "good enough docs" and must live my life with the declining quality of the ‘back alley physicians’.

In some way I find myself envying your position. I don’t know my ‘doctors’ and I have yet to meet them. You have the unique (at least in this time frame) of knowing your physicians, and they knowing you, albeit your individual condition(s)….

I have a generic (I assume) condition that a generic doctor has to diagnose. Who reads the ‘nets anyhow?

 

"If we have universal health care, will it allow Bill Gates and Frank Herbert options that you and I won’t have? How? Will physicians be allowed to offer concierge practice to the rich? How will physicians be paid?"

Dear Dr. Pournelle:

I would guess the answer to your question lies in the reification of concepts you have already explored under several different forms (variously in High Justice, and of course in Oath of Fealty), and which appear to be starting <http://www.economist.com/node/21541391> to <http://www.economist.com/node/21541392> happen <http://reason.com/blog/2011/12/06/seasteaders-take-to-the-land-in-honduras> in actuality (albeit at the moment with uncertain <http://reason.com/blog/2012/10/04/honduran-private-city-plan-shot-down-by> prospects <http://reason.com/blog/2012/10/30/another-blow-to-the-cause-of-honduran-fr> ): moving the elite institutions offshore, either in the current metaphorical sense, or literally (as in seasteading).

We already have a thriving <http://www.medicaltourismresourceguide.com/medical-tourism-in-2013> –albeit somewhat under the radar <http://www.npr.org/blogs/parallels/2013/11/12/244611440/will-colombias-gamble-on-medical-tourism-pay-off> –international "medical tourism <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_tourism> " trade: it seems likely the next step will be for the Mayo Clinic and others to expatriate themselves to friendlier venues, which will of course accelerate both the pace and the volume of medical tourism: a vicious (if you are the single-payer government) or virtuous (if you are the prospective individual consumer) cycle, but in any event a self-reinforcing one.

Very respectfully,

David G.D. Hecht

Indeed.  Which was really the point.

 

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Universal Health Care

Jerry,

You ask if elite care will still be available under universal health care with a single payer. The answer seems obvious: yes. You can bet that the President, the Congress Critters, and their ‘best friends’ will have access to a level of care unavailable to everyone else. It will likely be provided by the same doctors and at the same clinics and hospitals that the rest of us go to, but they will not have all the odd limits that will crop up in all of our care. There will be that therapy, drug, or surgery that is inaccessible to the rest of us because of some cost-benefit analysis that they will receive without question or hesitation. There will be that extended care or therapy that mysteriously stops for us before it can do the most good, but will go on and on for them, regardless of benefit.

The cute thing about it is that even though these people can afford to pay for the elite care, they wont. The rest of us will through our taxes and co-pays. After all, it is universal health care with a single payer and everyone has a right to that care without additional cost.

I know it sounds cynical and bitter, but look at how Congress keeps itself above and beyond the law of the land in almost every other way. I don’t think any other conclusion is possible.

Kevin L Keegan

 

 

"If we have universal health care, will it allow Bill Gates and Frank Herbert options that you and I won’t have? How? Will physicians be allowed to offer concierge practice to the rich? How will physicians be paid?"

If we get universal health care Bill Gates will simply fly to where his physician is. I don’t expect this to be in the US, but [Canada, Mexico, Bahamas].

I predict he will find no shortage of very smart, very excellent, US-born physicians who will care for him there.

I don’t know where Mr. Herbert, or you, or I, will get our care. I predict what we’ll experience will be similar to the care we experienced in the military. Generally ‘ok’ to ‘meh’: expect lines, impersonal care, and bureaucracy.

Brian Dunbar

 

 

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Health Care, Freedom, and Equality

Jerry,

I have lived under quite a few health care environments over the past four years in multiple countries. I’ll give you my perspective on my experiences. I visit the doctor more often than not for sinus/ear infections due to allergies and the amount of travel I do for work so I visit the doctor a couple of times a year.

1. Concierge Care – Houston, Texas

I signed up for this in 2009 as I was tired of waiting 2-3 hours past my appointment time to see my doctor. I had very good insurance but it made no difference. I learned about concierge care, did some research and interviewed doctors before I found the one I liked. At that time it was $1500 out of pocket a year but that came with a very comprehensive 2 day physical that included complete blood work, EKG, stress test, hearing, eyes, the whole nine yards. The physical alone was worth half the price I paid.

I was given my doctor’s cell phone and home phone numbers. He was on call to his patients at all times. This service limited a doctor’s practice to 800 members. He had his overhead costs covered right off the bat. Staff was minimal (less paperwork to process) and doctor visits could be scheduled an hour before you needed to see them. When I needed to visit there was no wait and the doctor spent a good 30 minutes with me every time.

Interesting thing is that they accepted insurance, including Medicare/Medicaid. The annual fee limited members per doctor so filing claims only required one staff member.

2. Expat Singapore 2010 – 2011

Moved to Singapore for work early 2010 and lived there for two years. They have socialized medicine. They also have private medicine. Your choice. I had expat insurance and could go anywhere but I went to the local clinics more than private doctors. Great thing was open pricing. I could call any doctor and ask how much a visit/procedure would cost and they would tell me. Completely open pricing. I could go to the cheap subsidized clinic and wait 30 minutes or I could go Cadillac to an expat doctor and pay a significant amount more. My choice.

I needed to get immunized for every tropical disease in Asia and went to a clinic in a shopping mall. 30 minute wait, 7 immunizations, total bill $20 US cash. I had a bad sinus infection, went back to the clinic, waited 30 minutes and had a doctor visit and my prescription filled for a total of $30. No insurance was involved at all.

When I needed a physical I went to an expat doctor and had the 2 day comprehensive everything physical. $1800 US.

All options are available and you can choose (if you have money).

Social care in Singapore is very good but there are limits. If you are diagnosed with cancer the state will treat you until you go into remission, once. If the cancer comes back they will give you opiates to ease the pain until you die. If you don’t want to die you have to pay for treatment yourself.

3. Expat Norway 2012

European socialized medicine. Within 1 month of moving there we were assigned doctors. No choice. Our neighbors were a nurse and anesthesiologist couple and they flat out told us to go to private doctors and to not use the state system. So there is a state subsidized system that everyone pays in to, and a separate private one that is used by those who chose to.

I encountered the state system the day we landed in Oslo. I had such a severe ear infection that as soon as we got to the hotel we dropped our bags off and went straight to the emergency room. Waited a long time and eventually saw a very young doctor. I told him I had an ear infection and antibiotics would clear it up. He looked at it, gave me some drops that “could cause possible permanent hearing damage” as he did not wait to make a call on antibiotics and referred me to a state ear specialist. $100 as I did not have Norwegian papers at the time. I did not use the drops.

Visit the specialist the next day and it is going back into the Old West. The array of instruments was spectacular and the autoclave nearby was assuring. He took a look and asked if the previous doctor has prescribed antibiotics. He was pissed when I told him no. To rule out the wild prognosis from the younger doctor he needed to take a sample for testing. I nearly came out of my chair from that particular violence and it is a miracle I did not punch him in the face. It was gratuitous and I was just an animal going through the system, just another guy to get through. Being from the US probably did not help my cause. $200 US.

After that I went to private doctors and was treated much better, albeit at cost.

Late last year I had an accident and cut three tendons in my hand that required surgery. Emergency room, surgery two days later, and a 3 month recovery. I was in the state system but at a teaching hospital so I received tremendously good care including physical therapy weekly for 5 months. Out of pocket maybe $300.

I also had a 50% income tax rate and a 25% VAT on all purchases including food while I lived in Norway so I consider the surgery and therapy a wash.

4. US 2013

Back to concierge care. I could not be happier. Shopped for the right doctor, found him and I’m set until the government comes and screws that up.

Overall, state care works at a lowest common denominator of care. I got lucky in Norway with the hand surgery. But both places I went had private options that cost more but provided more.

I have one body and one life and I take my healthcare seriously. I am willing to pay for it. Seeing the disaster that is looming with Obamacare I envision a lot of people leaving the system entirely to form private relationships with doctors outside of government control. I do not think anything good is going to come out of the path we are on.

Regards,

M

 

Universal Health Care and Equality-

Hi Dr Pournelle,

I just wanted to comment on "free" healthcare. If there is universal health care a separate paid system will develop alongside it. The big questions would be what is the quality of the "free" system and how expensive the paid system is, and is it available.

In the past 8 years we’ve lived in Mexico, Italy and Colombia. All three have universal health care, in Colombia one can pay a social security payment that is very low and reasonable and you can go to the public hospitals, which looked pretty terrible from the outside. We had private insurance so we went to the shiny new hospital that gave great care at a reasonable cash price, then we were reimbursed.

Then we moved to Italy where the healthcare is free. It was paid for by a 8% payroll tax that is taken off along with the 45% income tax. The key difference there is there are no deductions, so 53% tax is 53% off the top.

The healthcare there is very similar to what we received in the early 70’s at the Navy hospital in New Orleans, and the public health hospital we went to after they closed the Navy hospital, dumping Navy dependents among the riffraff.

The one key difference is in Italy there is no great incentive for doctors to be thoracic surgeons, so the best doctors

are pediatricians. There are really excellent pediatricians in Italy, just very little technology. To get an ultrasound

we had to travel an hour to Bologna, then it took a week for results. No trauma center in a city with 100,000 people,

so when young man was killed in a motorcycle accident down the street from the office, they sent a helicopter from

bologna. In the end, I made a deal with the company’s personnel people and paid the private insurance premium

so that we could use the good system of private hospitals that exist. Plus the 8% tax made for very expensive free healthcare.

Here in Mexico, everyone has a right to health care, there is also a pretty good private health system. We pay very reasonable cash prices in the private system and get pretty good care. It appears that many of the doctors in the private system have day jobs in the public system, so we get weird appointment hours of 7pm. I’ve heard horror stories about both the private and public systems; private hospitals that overdiagnose and operate just to increase the bill, public hospitals that are dirty and shabby. the public hospital I’ve seen looks pretty shabby, but they have a CAT scan machine.

The best outcome I can hope for in the US is that we end up with a crappy public system and the private systems switch to a cheaper cash price. Obamacare could be avoided just by paying the tax and going all cash, with insurance only for hospital stays.

The worst case would be a crappy public system, plus a private system that still keeps the current outrageously expensive price structure so that only movie stars and the 1% get good treatment. That is the sort of system that will breed revolution; instead of the sans-culottes we’ll have the sans-chemos and the sans-Cat scans.

The US lacks the uniform population and nice wine that makes the Italian system bearable, perhaps instead of pushing to repair the soon to be broken health system we should push for better, cheaper wine.

best regards,

Joe

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The War on Drugs

The official complaint filed against the police is in a .pdf in the document. Evidently the man was pulled over at a traffic stop, a drug-sniffing dog started barking, and he was rectally searched 8 times and came out clean.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20131105/05401425129/cops-subject-man-to-rectal-searches-enemas-colonoscopy-futile-effort-to-find-drugs-they-swear-he-was-hiding.shtml

The one ray of sunshine is that the police were evidently honest and didn’t try something stupid like planting crack on him to justify all the hullabaloo.

I’m at the point where I’m willing to legalize pretty much all forms of drugs, though I myself indulge in nothing more powerful than caffeine or occasional alcohol. My cost-benefit analysis is as follows: Cost: No-knock police raids, militarized operations, and a way of life alien to that desired by the founders. Benefit : A street price increase on drugs, but continued addiction and the problems which come with it.

So far as I can tell, the war on drugs costs us all a great deal and benefits no one save bureaucracies and politicians who have made it their hobby horse.

Respectfully,

Brian P.

I have long thought that the war on drugs was lost from its earliest days. I would have thought we would have learned from Prohibition – and we repealed the Amendment that made the Volstead Act constitutional. If it took the 18th Amendment to allow the feds to make possession and sale of alcohol within a state a federal crime, and we repealed that, which Article of Amendment makes the DWA constitutional? I asked Speaker Gingrich that one night in the Capitol and he had no answer, and began thinking about it, but apparently he was distracted because nothing came of it. But the question remains. Where do the feds get the right the forbid growing and smoking pot in your own back yard?

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I find it intriguing that you wrote the passage below regarding the discussion about the Permanent Underclass just down the page from a discussion of computers "coming alive."

"The American education system, coupled with the drive for higher and higher minimum wages, seems designed to produce a society which would rather buy robots than hire citizens.

I suppose it is not appropriate to ask, Why wouldn’t it? Robots don’t form unions to demand guns, and they don’t feel entitled. And what do our schools qualify the lower half of the class to do." (emphasis added)

What if they did?

Nick Hegge

 

 

 

 

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Exceptionalism

You derive most of your success from the fact you had a virgin continent to rape, at just the right time. There is no inherent superiority at all. With views like:

"I would agree that we have a cultural disdain for people that do not take care of themselves, and I think this is a right and proper disdain. I did not say people that cannot take care of themselves."

You are in fact a barbaric people. Simple and vindictive. You are also done. Fork is ready.

Chris Carson

This has been said before. I recall the Soviet Chairman speaking before the United Nations telling the United States that “We Will Bury You.”

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The Mote in God’s Eye

Dr Pournelle

NASA photos <http://www.buzzfeed.com/awesomer/the-most-spectacular-nasa-photos-ever-taken>

God’s Eye is number 12. Is that the Mote north of the center of the picture?

Live long and prosper

h lynn keith

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“If the draft rule is approved, it would allow the EPA to regulate virtually every body of water in the United States, including private and public lakes, ponds and streams.”

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Roland Dobbins

But that has always been the goal. At one point they tried to say that a mud puddle was navigable water subject to Federal control, and fine a man for draining his swamp. A Federal Action. The Iron Law always applies.

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Freedom is not free. Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free.

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Health Care, Freedom, and Equality

View 798 Tuesday, November 12, 2013

 

“Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency.”

President Barack Obama, January 31, 2009

 

Christians to Beirut. Alawites to the grave.

Syrian Freedom Fighters

 

What we have now is all we will ever have.

Conservationist motto

 

If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan.

Barrack Obama, famously.

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Universal Health Care and Equality

It’s pretty clear that the objective of the Affordable Health Care Act is to bring about a situation of universal health care, with the goal being that it will be just free: no insurance premiums, low to zero co-payments for both drugs and medical services, pretty well free hospitals. We may adjust the system, particularly with co-payments to discourage frivolous use of medical resources, but that appears to be the goal: universal single payer health care.

As it happens, I had breakfast with Frank Herbert the morning he was informed that the intestinal discomfort he had been feeling lately was middle stage pancreatic cancer. Frank being Frank it was a lot less unpleasant than you might have imagined. We were both making speeches at a computer convention in Seattle, and Frank gave his with aplomb, and we had dinner at Ivar’s that night. During dinner he told me that he and his wife had made arrangements for him to go to the Mayo clinic the next day. He was determined to lick this thing.

Of course he didn’t, but not from lack of trying. The point is that he could do that.

At that time I couldn’t have. Indeed, when I was told I had brain cancer in late 2007, my choices were always limited to what Kaiser offered; going to the Mayo Clinic or Sloan-Kettering wasn’t a financially feasible option. I hasten to add that had I had the money I wouldn’t have been tempted: my experience with the Kaiser system was as pleasant as it could have been under the circumstances, and I had every reason to believe in the competence of my physicians – most of whom had actually read some of my books.

Pass now to days of universal health care: can the Mayo Clinic exist? For that matter, can “Cadillac Plans” such as I have had with Kaiser for more than twenty-five years continue to exist under single payer universal health care? Could the Kaiser system itself survive?

“Why should Frank Herbert have access to better health care than I can get?” Or Bill Gates, or – but you get the idea. If we ever get to single payer universal health care that will be a question that must be answered. Why should anyone have access to something better than everyone can afford?

So you are faced with allocation of services – death panels, in popular parlance – to elite institutions, or else the elite institutions must cease to exist. They may not vanish and go out of business; there is always the alternative of expanding them enormously so that they are no longer elite institutions although they keep the same name; but effectively they will be gone.

I invite comment. If we have universal health care, will it allow Bill Gates and Frank Herbert options that you and I won’t have? How? Will physicians be allowed to offer concierge practice to the rich? How will physicians be paid?

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Solar activity heads for lowest low in four centuries

I like these quotes: "The Maunder Minimum coincided with the worst European winters of the little ice age" and "The precise extent to which solar cycles influence global temperatures is still debated." And while the Climatologists didn’t see this coming, they know the outcome: "we should not expect a new grand minimum to bring on a new little ice age".

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn24512-solar-activity-heads-for-lowest-low-in-four-centuries.html

David Smallwood

Of course the media are filled with dire warnings that “Climate Change” (no longer Global Warming) is responsible for the severity of the recent typhoons in the Philippines. There is no evidence for this hypothesis, but that doesn’t bother the institutional bureaucrats of the UN who get to pose as scientists.   Why any scientist worthy of the name participates in the UN political farce they call science is not clear. 

 

I used to build models for a living. The notion of systems analysis was to find systems you could model using mathematics that let you solve the model; you then tested the model against the real world.  The various climate models do none of this. They don’t even attempt to model in known factors, and they can’t even predict the real world – that is they can’t take the initial conditions of 1950 and run to 2010 and get anything similar to what actually happened.  And as the years go on it becomes more and more clear that there is no more warming trend now than there was in the days when the great fear was a cooling trend toward an ice age.  The fact remains that we don’t know what generates long term climate trends, and we have absolutely no understanding of solar radiation phenomena.

 

We do know that Earth was much warmer in Viking times than it is now; and that it was much colder during the Little Ice Age after the cooling trend began about 1300; and that it has been warming since about 1800 with a good deal of the warming happening before 1850.  CO2 has been seized as a forcing factor largely because it’s hard to think of another; but then CO2 from volcanism isn’t predictable either, and it’s not clear just what its contribution to rising CO2 levels may be.

We ought to be working on ways to reduce CO2 levels if they get a great deal higher, but not at the price of bankrupting ourselves.  Since there is uncertainty whether climate is getting hotter or colder, Bayesian analysis would indicate that optimum strategy would be to spend more on reducing that uncertainty, not on betting on remedies that depend on guessing correctly.  We know that CO2 is rising; it’s wise to think up ways to deal with that; but not as climate control.  Incidentally, forests are pretty good at sequestering CO2.

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‘Until recently, without the knowledge of Congress, the Air Force was moving fast on a secret plan to help fund the F-35 by abolishing the A-10 fleet.’

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Roland Dobbins

Droll

 

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6 satellites ready for space

Each one is a 10 cm cube loaded into a dispenser. They will fly to ISS next month. You can post the picture.

Someone told me Von Braun thought kicking sats out the door of a space station was the best way to do it. You heard this? Want to ask your readers? Would love to get a source.

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Rich

Commercial space in action.  I seem to recall hearing that von Braun had said that and it seems reasonable, but he never said it to me. Anyone remember it?

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Freedom is not free. Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free.

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