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Monday  October 29, 2001


Based on your recommendation ("Mail" May 21, 2001), I finally obtained a copy of Nero Burning Rom (version 5.0, which came with a TDK CD-R drive I purchased. The TDK drive was recommended to me by a producer at KBCO radio here in Boulder. The inclusion of Nero was one of the factors which influenced my decision).

I installed it on a new Windows XP PC, and it works great, except that if I try to use it as a non-admin user, I get the following message:

NERO - BURNING ROM Under Windows 2000 administrator rights are required by Nero to access cd recorders and cd-rom/dvd-rom drives. Please log in with administrator rights and retry. [OK]

This is a PC I built for a family member, and would like to avoid making her default account a member of Local administrators if I can help it. I had a similar problem with Diablo II ("Mail" August 8, 2001).

Do you (or any of your readers) know of a way that non-admin accounts can user Nero Burning Rom?

There is nothing on Ahead's FAQ [ ] about this. A search on the internet reveals that other people have the same problems, but no one has found a solution.

I tried doing a custom installation (as opposed to the default), but was not offered the option to "make this program availalbe to all users," as some programs' installation menus do.

According to one of the PC support people here at work, there were similar problems when an office manager ordered Gateway PCs with CD burners and Adaptec Easy CD Creator (version 4.0, I believe). The solution was to make the users admins on their machines. I'm glad I'm not doing _that_ job anymore.

Robert Racansky

One possibility is to create a local administrative user, and have her log in LOCALLY as that when burning CD's. I expect there are other methods. I confess I haven't paid a great deal of attention to this, and I should, but I am not home just now so I can't fool with it.


LATimes had an article on the Wayback Machine this morning (Thur Oct 25) I tried it and observed the Lazarus Effect on some stuff I lost in the dot bust. Lots of issues with this new form of library...jim dodd  

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Jim Dodd


Dear Dr. Pournelle: I was reading the discussion on Republic versus Empire when a connection clicked - Republican leadership may be more effective than Imperial force.

 The case study for this is the democratization of Latin America. During the 1950-1980 timeframe, and particularly the 1970s, the United States had a very Imperial policy toward Latin America. We were willing, indeed eager, to use economic sanctions and military force to beat local governments into the shape we wanted. The result was a series of military juntas of dubious habits, fighting (and sometimes losing) Communist movements that were even less savory. 

This changed during the 1980s. Reagan implemented a Republican policy of defending our own liberty (by counterbalancing the support that the Soviets were providing), but using persuasion and reason instead of threats and force to nudge Latin American governments toward a more democratic (and hence more stable) policy.

A decade later, Fidel Castro was the only dictator in the Americas. Republican persuasion had succeeded where Imperial coercion had failed. It's a lesson we might want to remember.

V/R: Mike McDaniel

That was certainly the view of the Framers. At first, of course, we didn't have the resources to aid new republics; all we could do was be the City On The Hill, an alabaster city to gleam as a symbol. Many regretted that we couldn't aid revolutionary France. Then came the Terror, and Thermidor, and Napoleon, and we began to think again.

Sometimes it may or may not be enough to be a shining example, and when we are directly threatened we may have to take measures we wish we had not taken. But for the long run I think Republic is more effective than Empire, including for security. Empire has costs. One of the costs is you have to create Legions.

Seems The Knights Of Malta are conducting their kind of "crusade":


Yes. The Military and Hospitaler Order of St. Lazarus of Jerusalem, in which I have the honor to be a Chevalier, is also conducting that kind of Crusade, there and in the Balkans, and has for years.

There is a suspicion in Europe that bin Laden is deliberately using Aufstragtaktik (mission-type orders). To cope with that, our low-level leaders need strong character (i.e., individual initiative moderated by a sense of responsibility to the community). The current emphasis on testing outcomes in US and UK education discourages the development of character. I think we may be in trouble....

 -- --- Harry Erwin, PhD, Senior Lecturer of Computing, University of Sunderland. Computational neuroscientist modeling bat bioacoustics and behavior. <>

The Russians used to leave decisions to Colonels that the Germans gave to platoon sergeants. The Russians needed overwhelming numbers to defeat German units. Battlefield initiative is important even in this age of computers. But of course the temptation is to act as if it is all a war game, and the units are lead soldiers...

Dear Dr. Pournelle, Thought you'd find this interesting. The standing orders for the Rangers. 

Kit Case

I am not sure about the authenticity of that, but it's good advice...

Now I have to work.

-----Original Message----- From: Robert Richardson 

Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 3:42 PM 


Subject: You retard


I have told you before that if you choose to remove yourself from all us riff-raff, you will never get decent broadband. Forget it. The laws of economics, like those of physics, are immutable; you live in a secluded, sparsely populated area with few customers and the broadband companies are going to ignore you. Forget it. Or pay $10K (which you can afford) to have Cox or your cable company to run cable to your fortress and you will have a cable modem in short order! Dumbass.

Actually, Studio City is in the middle of Los Angeles. The cable people say they will have fiber and cablemodem in January, and the phone company says it will have DSL about the same time. I am not sure why my situation causes you to call me names. Under the circumstances I have removed your email address from the above.

But I don't live where you apparently think I do.


Thanks very much for this insight. I have been wondering about satellite for some time now. I currently have cable modem and its VERY good. I can get satellite and DSL in my location also, but I have read DSL horror stories about PacBell and now your adventure has caused me to see the brown grass on the other side!

cheers, rh

Richard Hakala

I am glad someone appreciates that I do these silly things so you won't have to...


I've seen several references lately to Rogers' Rangers Standing Orders. The ones that appeared recently in your Mail were from the novel, 'Northwest Passage', by Kenneth Roberts. These are shown at the following URL, along with the originals for comparison. 


Martin Morehouse





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Tuesday,  October 30, 2001

Roland gives us yet another alternative to Microsoft Word: 



Concering power generating satellites: if NASA isn't ready, NASDA (Japan) certainly is. Proposals now, test shots in 2005--2007, full operation by 2010.

See: ts_011029.html

Kind Regards, Bruce Hollebone: hollebon (at)

Someone will do them. Depend upon it.

ARG!, windows ftp software. I used WS_FTP for a number of years but found LeechFTP ( ) much better. The problem is that the fellow who did it (it is freeware) hasn't upgraded it since 1999. His next big thing was to be BitBeamer. It never came about, I assume he feel in love and got married (grin). That said, Leechftp is a great program.

-dan Ulllman

I have never had any -- or at least many -- problems with WS-FTP, but thanks for an alternative.


RE the continuing trickle of low-level anthrax spottings and now the woman at the NYC hospital who caught it: I'd bet on it being a matter of secondary contamination of mail that went through the sorting machines with or after the few known primary anthrax letters. The rash of recent spottings aren't being precisely described, but in general the descriptions seem to be of trace amounts.

As for the unfortunate woman in NYC (and I expect alas a few others before this is over) the "8,000 to 10,000 inhaled spores to cause infection" criteria is not a binary healthy/sick threshold, but rather a level where infection is statistically very likely. Infection by lesser amounts is less likely; infection by a single spore is wildly unlikely but nevertheless finitely possible. I suspect she came upon a very small amount of the spores carried by secondarily contaminated mail and just got very, very unlucky - she rolled immunological snake-eyes, if you will.

If you spend all day handling mail that shared a path from Trenton to DC or NYC with the primary anthrax letters, your chances of catching anthrax are apparently still down there with your chances of getting hit by lightning. The government seems to be doing a lousy job of explaining all this, perhaps because it's not sound-bite simple.

As for the apparent two genetically-identical but different particle-size batches of anthrax - have you ever checked out how size-stratified a box of cornflakes gets if it's been pounded a bit in shipping? Full size flakes on top, cornflake powder on the bottom. One small anthrax container could well have been size-stratified when someone was carefully scooping out a letterfull at a time. (Would you have shaken the container before opening it? Or stirred it after? No, I wouldn't have either.)

My take is that we're seeing nothing inconsistent with a single small batch of anthrax mailed out in a single burst of letters. The only anomaly is the Florida tabloid attack, and I recall reading somewhere that they'd printed something fairly rude about Osama earlier this summer - that I'd guess was a parting shot from one of the hijackers, with the Trenton mailings then being an attempt at following up 9/11 by a survivor of the cell.

Henry Vanderbilt

Add to this the age of most of the victims, and I suspect you are right: we are getting infections of people most susceptible to them, elderly with compromised immune systems. 

On the other hand, I heard that the New York stuff may not be the same batch as the fine powder in Washington. I don't know if that's true. So we wait. This is continued below.

And the following was a thought exercise by John Ringo for another place and is printed here by permission:

Known facts to work with within this scenario:

Saddam has 19 "palaces" which have significant industrial/military activity at them. None of them were inspected under the UN regime since they were deemed "political" rather than industrial (despite overheads that we had showing that that was false.) I'm not sure how many of them are near population centers but the indications that I got was that most of them were not near them. In addition we have intelligence on other, essentially "secret", facilities, other than the palaces.

We have a nuke that was developed towards the end of the development curve which is a "nuclear shape charge." Something 61 if I recall correctly. It was designed to first bury itself then project a significant proportion of its force (along with a good bit of it's nastier isotopes) downward. Assuming that we have nineteen of them, first put significant forces in Kuwait and Saudi, then send an ultimatum. Evacuate all of the palaces, with all persons leaving on foot and taking nothing with them. The first truck going in or out will cause a nuke drop. After the ultimatum period (short, no more than three hours) has passed, drop on all nineteen palaces and any other probable "secret" facilities (_don't_ give a warning about them and don't even acknowledge the drops) simultaneously. Then start "Desert Storm" all over again, with the expressed purpose of installing the sort of regime we have in northern Iraq (where _no_ children have "died from the sanctions", what horseshit).

If Saudi or Kuwait geek, _publicly_ explain to them that at this point we have a choice of "restabilizing" Iraq as a non-threat or glazing it from the Saudi border to Turkey. (Yes, I know that's physically impossible, what we _would_ do is wipe out every city or significant village.)

We're approaching "Option One" here from a failure to properly implement or plan for Option Two. We are going to have to remove the strategic threat of state developed and deployed WMD or we're facing a real strategic threat. We can do this by mass invasion and conquest, option two, or mass destruction by nuclear weapons, option one. Option Two requires forces we don't have. Option One may be our only out if Bush and Rumsfeld don't start an immediate "Reagan" buildup.



"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight: nothing he cares about more than his own personal safety: is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions and blood of better men than himself."

- John Stuart Mill

I am not sure we have come down to those options, but perhaps so; I do not see how we can conquer Iraq without using nuclear weapons, since this time he is unlikely to give us a free ride to build our forces there.

We live in interesting times. Continued below.




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Wednesday, All Hallows Eve, 2001

Can anyone tell me what this is:

Look what the've written about you on CNN:


Yours, Artem 

And just what is going on? I have to go have coffee: none this morning because of errands. Ugh. I can't think about this stuff without coffee.

Clearly it's a hoax, the question is, to what purpose? More below. A lot more below and quite interesting. Thanks to all the readers who responded. (No more needed!)

And in fact it's horrible: everyone who visits that site generates an email message to me, or something does.

Continuing a discussion:


RE conquering Iraq with available troops, I suspect it could be done with a fraction of the force we assembled for Desert Storm, most likely without use of tac nukes. (Sure, bring 'em along just in case.)

First, consider that the force levels for Desert Storm were massive overkill, in order to minimize casualties. Second, consider how poorly the Iraqi army fared in open-country battles even where they weren't badly outnumbered locally. Between the level of training and equipment of our forces, and the level of air support we can apply, I expect something on the order of a reinforced corps, 100,000 or so total troops in a mix of mechanized, tank, and airmobile divisions, could roll through Iraq and defeat anything the Iraqis sent out into the open to fight. (The Iraqis aren't what they were in 1991 either.)

The hard part would be fighting our way into the cities, of course. I suggest we don't do that.

Instead, bypass smaller urban areas while crippling any heavy sortie forces present with bombs and artillery. Once we get to Baghdad, we surround the place, bombard mobile forces as above, stand back - and start airdropping small arms and ammunition into the blockaded city, along with flyers stating that we'll start dropping food instead of guns as soon as the locals hand over Saddam and company, dead or alive, we don't care.

Would it work? Good question. But if it could be made to work, it has the considerable virtue of fitting the Army we have now, not the considerably larger Army we used to have.

Henry Vanderbilt

The problem is that we no longer have 100,000 troops in the region, and we are not likely to be allowed a leisurely buildup. And given the nonsense we hear from the news, if one stray cat were killed we'd be accused of mass murder.

Establishing a beachhead under fire is one of the toughest of military operations.


In my last letter I espoused invading Iraq (assuming as seems likely that it's necessary) with a relatively small fast mobile force, bypassing or besieging cities rather than fighting our way into them.

One thing to look at in such a plan is, of course, what are the options if everything goes horribly wrong. Having multiple American divisions forced to surrender is not an option. Multiple possible lines of supply and potential lines of retreat are a good thing.

I assume we'd initiate such an invasion out of Kuwait. I don't worry about Kuwait getting wobbly on us; if we lose they're for the chop regardless. Worse come to worst, we could no doubt find non-wobbly Kuwaitis to install.

But we could lose access to Kuwait if someone successfully blockades the Gulf against us, something not outside the realm of the possible.

At that point, we still have two potential lines of supply/lines of retreat: East through the desert to Israel, and north through the Kurdish territories to Turkey. The March of the Hundred Thousand wouldn't be an ideal way to end such a campaign, but it'd beat the hell out of the alternative were we to lose our primary supply line.

If as I suspect our leaders are sitting on evidence of Iraqi complicity in 9/11 until we're done with Afghanistan (I approve of such a policy; when resources are limited deal with one thing at a time) then we are going to have to do something final about Saddam's regime. Invasion and conquest would be brutal, make no doubt about it - the implications of securing supply routes and besieging cities until Saddam falls are fairly frightful - but less brutal by far than simply nuking every place of Saddam's power.

And after we've finished, likely we'll have bought a decade or two where no government in the region would think of aiming terrorists at us, other than in chains for trial. Worth the risk and cost, I think.

Henry Vanderbilt

Well, we certainly have to see to it that the governments that allowed bin Laden to operate, and even those who supported his "right" to do so, are changed. It needs to be got across that killing Americans has a price, not just for those who do it, but for those who cheer the murderers on.

I recall reading we already had an armored division in Kuwait on maneuvers on 9/11. I doubt we've withdrawn them since; I suspect we've been slowly building up. I suspect we will have enough on the ground to hold the place when the time to put the main force in comes.

My worry, as I allude to in the longer note preceding, is a fall of the House of Saud followed by a local coalition blockade of the Gulf against us. We could hold Kuwait just fine, till the supplies ran out. Worst case, any concentrated invasion of Kuwait would present a target for tac nukes - but if the supply ships stop coming, we'd have to establish an overland route from Israel or Turkey, or surrender.

Henry Vanderbilt

All of which is I am sure in the minds of the generals. Some will take counsel from their fears.

The great thing is not to lose your nerve.

All platitudes are based on truth. I have no real information on what kind of generals and admirals survived 8 years of Clinton.

And then:

Dear Dr. Pournelle,

Why, exactly, should we want to conquer Iraq without using nuclear weapons? It seems to me the reason we didn't use nuclear weapons in the small wars of the twentieth century, such as Korea (where they would have been decisive) or Viet Nam (where they probably wouldn't have been) was fear of igniting a general holocaust with the USSR.

But Iraq has no nukes, and no allies who have nukes. So what is deterring us from crossing that threshold? I find it hard to believe that if, say, China wanted to use nukes in reclaiming Taiwan, it would make any difference to them whether or not we had used them previously in Iraq.

And as for Iraq, et al using them on us, they cannot be any more likely to do so than they are now. They haven't done it ONLY because they don't have any. If Saddam Hussein thought he could get away with denying his apparent sponsorship of the WTC and anthrax attacks, why would he think a nuke would be harder to deny?

Steve Johnson Fredericksburg, VA

"It is not the critic that counts, not the man who points out where the strong man stumbled or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man in the arena, whose face is marred with dust and sweat and blood. Who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; who, in the end, knows at last the triumph of high achievement, or, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place should never be with those cold, timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat."

-- Theodore Roosevelt 

And finally for this morning:

Dear Dr. Pournelle,

The most likely long-range forecast seems to be Almost Empire: the US wreaks great damage in Afghanistan, destroys the Taliban, kills a lot of bin Laden's network all over the world, declares victory and goes home.

And a few years later it happens again, because Saddam Hussein now believes he can keep sponsoring this kind of attack forever.

My question to you is: what THEN?

Seriously, if the Bush administration ends this war inconclusively, the way Bush Sr. did in 1991, and we get another attack from the same sort of people, then the next election will probably feature two McCain-type candidates, each swearing to be more extreme than the other in reducing the Middle East to the level of Carthage. Or do you think there will still be room for Clinton/Bush Sr. "business as usual" behavior?

Steve Johnson
Fredericksburg, VA

"It is not the critic that counts, not the man who points out where the strong man stumbled or where the
doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man in the arena, whose face is
marred with dust and sweat and blood. Who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again;
who, in the end, knows at last the triumph of high achievement, or, if he fails, at least fails while daring
greatly, so that his place should never be with those cold, timid souls who know neither victory nor

-- Theodore Roosevelt

I don't know. And the Incompetent Empire seems fairly likely as the compromise position, given the media. We will see.

The US muddles through, and sometimes we get things right. Perhaps Bismarck was right.

Regarding that "award", there is a great deal below, much of it interesting; I have learned a lot from this, and thanks to my readers. I have also learned that this thing generates spam to me, so I have made a subtle change in the URL; you will NOT see the "award" I got:

I got this window after I left the fake CNN page (the URL was very suspicious):

(Embedded image moved to file: pic26500.pcx)

I got nothing like that...

Look closely at the URL: ". The number maps to . Your correspondent, Artem, has a .ru address also. Did he ask you for round-trip fare so he could give you the money?


So far no one has asked for anything...

Look at the full URL - the is the actual server that's serving the page. Looking up that IP address at  shows it is allocated to Europe (RIPE - Reseaux IP Europeens). Search at  and discover that the computer is at Main Computer Center of Roshydromet.

But it is a good example of how "authoritative" an internet source really is - a quick glance at the URL would make you think it's CNN reporting.

Sorry to have cost you $50k.

David P.

--- A random thought for the day:

The lottery is a tax on people who are bad at math.

Which still tells me little about why anyone bothered with this...

Your award at CNN is not really on the CNN site, nor have they been hacked.

The address is:

IP ignores everything to the left of the ampersand.

The actual address here is:

Which is Russia:


IP whois of ipw: Connecting to server: ipw: Query: net ipw: Connecting to server: ipw: Query: inetnum: - netname: ROSHYDROMET-LAN descr: Main Computer Center of Roshydromet descr: 9-11 Bol. Predtechenskii descr: Moscow, Russia descr: Main computer center and major office LANs country: RU admin-c: SL543-RIPE tech-c: MZ25-RIPE status: ASSIGNED PA notify: mnt-by: RSSI-NOC changed: 19971219 source: RIPE

route: descr: Cosmos network descr: Space Research Institute descr: 117810 Profsouznaya St. 84/32 descr: Moscow, Russia origin: AS5386 mnt-by: RSSI-NOC changed: 20000322 source: RIPE

person: Sergey Lubov address: Main Computer Center address: Roshydromet address: 9-11 Bol.Predchistenskii address: Moscow, Russia phone: +7 095 255 2419 e-mail: nic-hdl: SL543-RIPE changed: 19971119 source: RIPE

person: Michael Yu Zakharov address: Space Research Institute address: 84/32 Profsoyuznaya address: 117810 Moscow address: Russia phone: +7 095 333 3467 fax-no: +7 095 913 3040 e-mail: nic-hdl: MZ25-RIPE changed: 19960226 changed: 19960301 changed: 19990331 source: RIPE

Lawrence T. May, Jr.

Which is suggestive: Space Research Institute? I once knew people there. Still not sure why anyone bothered, but it's fun. Thanks.

Looks like that came from  . The site offers you the chance to pick a boilerplate story and fill in the blank with the name of the "victim."


"Dream big, but don't get caught napping." Webb Wilder - The Last of the Full Grown Men

OK. Interesting...


>Look what the've written about you on CNN: "" >Yours, Artem

A nasty little trick; URLs weren't really designed to be human-readable, and this is a clever means for forged authoritative-looking data, or trojans (imagine doing this with Amazon...)

That URL parses as user "", at web server "" (an IP address), with the data to be retrieved the output of program "" (presumably a perl script) run with arguement "277". No doubt different values for that last number and possibly the user id will give all sorts of other forged pages. He copied the format from CNN, and included off-site links to the real CNN. The format copy, at least, arguably consititues copyright infringement if CNN's lawyers are feeling cantankerous.

Newer versions of Opera give a warning if you open one of these deceptive URLs; a thoughtful touch.

- Mike Earl

No harm seems to have been done, and in fact it was a bit of fun: for almost two seconds I believed it before sanity set in, so it wasn't what you call a major disappointment to realize it was a hoax.

And here is even more:

Again, feel free to print this, Jerry.

Just a bit of work on that pseudo-CNN web page reminded me of something I'd seen months ago in one of my random web rambles. So I went to Google, one of the best search engines I know, and tried this.. "Obfuscated URL's".

Wow. Over 10 pages worth of hits on just that phrase alone. But here's the most important bit.

At , they state flat out (as I mentioned in my last letter to Jerry) that "In actual fact, everything between "http://" and "@" is completely irrelevant! Just about anything can go in there and it makes no difference whatsoever to the final result."

A little further down the page is this..

"This feature is actually used for authentication. If a login name and/or password is required to access a web page, it can be included here and login will be automatic. Example: But if the page requires no authentication, the authentication text is in effect ignored by both browser and server."

So, this means that the "" in that URL is ignored by your browser, and the REAL page is at the location of, aka "".

The web page I mentioned above contains a nice entry level lesson on how to create an obscure, yet fully functional URL string that will have most people scratching their heads in confusion. It also teaches you how to DE-obfuscate such deliberately mis-leading URLs.

Apparently, this method is used not only by people who want to get past nanny-ware filtering programs, but by clowns who think it's funny to pull cyberjokes on the unaware or unknowing. *sigh*

Like a hammer, I suppose. You can build a house with one, or crush someone's skull with it. It's the motivation or intent of the user, not the fault of the tool.

Hope that helps, Jerry.

Ed Becerra.

"Dreamers may die, but the Dream is eternal..."

And finally from the LASFS scribe:

As I was backing out of the site, this came up in a window...

Dear Jerry Pournelle , Amazed by the news? Relax - that was a fake story! You can do the same now with your friend, teacher, lover - merely anyone! Have some Hi-Tech fun! <> <<...OLE_Obj...>> <>

I am impressed by their use of the English language. I'll bet they wish it were a favorable impression.


But in fact I didn't see that, probably because I was in a hurry. Ah well.






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Thursday, All Saints Day, 2001

Robert Racansky's solution for Nero is to upgrade to version 5.5. Using version 5.5 you can assign burn rights to a user group. Once you do that, anyone in that group can write to the CD.

I just upgraded to Windows 2000 Pro, and had to reinstall Nero 5.5 to get the functionality. I then ran the upgrade and it works fine.


Thanks. I didn't think I had that problem, but I have been using sll along.


If any readers have even a scintilla (yeah, I know, I'm a lawyer, can't help it) of doubt about our goals or conduct in Afghanistan, go to . It's an amazing presentation. It is most definitely not for the faint of heart (it has photos of people jumping from the towers).

Carey Gage

From: Stephen M. St. Onge

Subject: News

Dear Jerry:  reports reports successful primate cloning (if you haven't done so recently, re-read Mr. Heinlein's BEYOND THIS HORIZON. Our brave new world is ALL in there, even though it was written before Global Unpleasantness Two).,2933,37639,00.html  reports that the Supremes will decide whether the Constitution (aka How their guts feel this week) allows the banning of computer generated child pornography, the kind that doesn't involve any real children.

Pop quiz: One of these links is a parody of, and one of them isn't. Try and tell the difference, based on content alone.

Best, Stephen


Dr. Pournelle,

A quick note. I cannot substantiate, yet, but my parents saw on local Phoenix TV or read in the Phoenix paper that many US universities use Anthrax in their biogenetics and biochemistry classes and research programs. Therefore these universities have the facilities and the wherewithal (people trained to do the work) to duplicate the US military granularity and can add the chemicals to make the type of Anthrax (weapons-grade) seen at the plagued sites. It will probably be a while before someone realizes this in the FBI and starts to look at all these university programs.

Some of the university labs do have military-government projects/contracts that may have included some research into military grade Anthrax for some purpose such as a vaccine, etc. If one of these labs had some Anthrax removed or stolen then modified to weapons grade by someone somewhat knowledgeable (and this could be a grad-student) then this would constitute an alternate source for such material (other than governments).

It would also imply the loner sociopath as the type of person doing the attack. On the other hand... what you said about asking who might have sold such material - which would be a good line of questioning for the FBI to take on - is in my opinion also a valid issue.

On another topic - I have a cable modem and though I have been generally happy with it and cable service, it also gets into snits when there is no service or I have to re-boot the router and cable modem to re-connect at maximum speed. It is sort of like having brown-outs and/or short service outages. They generally last minutes or hours but not days.

As you may have noticed there is no software that reports on the Internet weather patterns. At least as far as I know. Maybe someone can point us to a website or software that reports and tracks this.

Best regards, I am happy to be able to subsribe to your site and thereby to support your site and efforts.

Oliver Richter

I have no idea about anthrax and universities. No data at all. I can tell you that gives an Internet weather report that's pretty good.

I can still recommend Papyrus Office


Easily downloadable 1-2 MB demos.

/ Bo

> Roland gives us yet another > alternative to Microsoft Word: > -- Leuf Consultancy LeufCom -- Most recent book: The Wiki Way (Addison-Wesley),


From: Stephen M. St. Onge

Subject: news

Dear Jerry:  has some interesting evidence that the anthrax attacks were planned _before_ the destruction of the WTC. From this, the Federal Bureau of Irrationality concludes that they are unconnected with the terrorists. If anyone understands the reasoning, I hope they'll write and explain it to me.  has news that our valiant Pakistani allies are aiding the enemy, and,,2001370005-2001380490,00.html  has a nice example of the wages of appeasement. I wish I could say I'm surprised, but as my letter in war mail predicted ( ), we don't have the will to make ourselves feared. With luck, I'll be dead of old age before the bill comes due, but the Gen-Xers better get used to being murdered.

Finally, some really important news: the _Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone_ movie dodged a potential disaster.,,2-2001380286,00.html .

I'll be resubscribing soon.

Best, Stephen

Thanks. We have one chance now to do something. I fear the choices are three: incompetent empire, republic, and competent empire: and the probabilities are in that order.





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There's a whole freakin' market just for Outlook-based mailing lists! Sheesh!

Category: Windows Me/98/95 / E-mail Programs and Utilities Publisher: Rob Sedgwick Website:  File Name: Downloads: 81 Ware Type: Freeware File Size: 660929 File Date: 1999-11-13 12:49:00 Description: MassMail v1.00: Send multiple emails. Free

Massmail v1.0 is used to send identical emails to multiple recipients. This is useful for mailing lists where you do not want each recipient to see who the other recipients are. To use it you just paste a subject, the list of recipients and the message text into MassMail. You then press the send button and an identical message is sent to each recipient as a separate email. MassMail works with Microsoft Outlook and Outlook Express.

Special requirements: MassMail works with Microsoft Outlook and Outlook Microsoft Express (not other email programs).

Freeware. Uploaded by the author.

It's free, natch. Ignore the website addr - that seems to point to a euro-football fan site. (???)

These guys got a 5 star ZDNet rating (I have no idea if that counts with you or not) and it seems like it would accept addresses from outlook - but I am guessing you like Outlook for the Word support (shudder).

This one imports from outlook - free small version, has awards, blah blah blah: 

This one might well be useful - all it does is hammer SMTP servers looking for dead address, and then can cull them from your list - AND THEN you can do a send:

FEH! It's simtel as usual, crap larded with occasional bits of silver. Anyways, one of the above ought to do you, at least for a while. (Unfortunately, there's no market for mailing list software aimed at sickly lupus patients on SSI like my friend, so she may be out of luck...FEH!)

ash ['I will cease pestifying you now.']

Pestify away: this is how most journalist learn things. The difference is I show how its done by posting mail here...

I use Outlook because the RULES are easy to use and set up. I note that many Outlook users hate the program but continue to use it for the same reasons I do, the rules are simple. There's also inertia. But I get thousands of emails a day, most of them junk. I still have to look through the junk because people send press releases to mailing lists, and friends will make up a list and send to that rather than me: so the residual mail has to be sorted somewhere that I can go look at leisure, throw away thousands of spams and solicitations to weird sex and truly remarkable offers, and try to make a rule that will allow that particular person to get to me another time. 

Then once past the first gatekeeper the mail has to be sorted in priorities and I don't mean a priority assigned by the sender...  All told, Outlook does this well. Not much else does.

I will look into this, but I suspect the problem is deeper than it appears. Earthlink seems to be trying to prevent spammers from using its mailing service, which is admirable, but in doing it they have gone to checking each mail as it goes out, and if ONE mail can't be checked as a valid address the whole list is dumped.  I don't know if the mailer you recommend here can get past that. I'll try to find out.


Dr. Pournelle,

I ran into similar problems with my ISP. There is a simple fix for me, since I have a Linux system at home, too. I just started up the sendmail program on the linux box (sendmail -bd) and told my Windows mail client to use that box for outgoing mail. The Windows box dumps the problem onto the Linux sendmail in a jiffy, then sendmail handles each address individually. The only bad part is that sendmail then spends lots of time and bandwidth doing DNS lookups and sending a copy of the message to each recipient. If you can spare the bandwidth, it's good enough.

Robin Juhl, Capt., USAF (retired)

Thanks. This may do it in that Earthlink would at least have to reject one at a time.  I'll look into setting up something.

I confess what I really want is the old system back. I don't want to change my operations just now.

Regarding your email list sending problems, you might be better off using mailing list software rather than using just an email client. While email clients can send to a bunch of people, it doesn't really do a great job of it. I know of some windows based mailing list managers, but they all cost $. There is a free mail list solution:

Take a look at 

Its a very nice mailing list manager with a web based admin interface that is easy to manage from any computer with a web browser. It runs on Linux so you might need some help setting it up. With it, you can send one email to it and it will resend to all your members (handling those with bad email addresses). The bad email address handling routine tries to send a bunch of times then marks the user "inactive", which you can see (and change) from the web based front end.

While it can be used to allow all list members to send emails to the list, it can also be set up to allow just you to send email and others to recieve. While it usually is setup to allow people to add themselves to the list using their web browser, it can be setup so only you can add members that are on your paid members list.

One of my friends uses it on a list that has about 1000 members and 30 messages a day with no problems. It cut his workload dealing with email problems to near zero from his previous very time consuming methods. Other people use it with really big mailing lists. You might want to look into it.


This looks very like what I need. Again, setting it up on Linux will require me to get the books out again, but that's no bad thing.

I would send more frequently to subscribers if it were easier to do.



Now this from a reader. I will copy this to the war pages.


Thought both of these pieces would add to the discussion on your website.

Thanks for the good work..

Robin Whitson

I was at a UNC lecture the other day where they played a video of Oliver North during the Iran-Contra deals during the Reagan administration. I was only 14 back then but was surprised by this particular clip. There was Ollie in front of God and Country getting the third degree.

But what he said stunned me. He was being drilled by some senator I didn't recognize who asked him; 'Did you not recently spend close to $60,000 for a home security system?'

Oliver replied, 'Yes I did sir.'

The senator continued, trying to get a laugh out of the audience, 'Isn't this just a little excessive?'

'No sir,' continued Oliver.

'No. And why not?'

'Because the life of my family and I were threatened.'

'Threatened? By who.'

'By a terrorist, sir.'

'Terrorist? What terrorist could possibly scare you that much?'

'His name is Osama bin Laden.'

At this point the senator tried to repeat the name, but couldn't pronounce it, which most people back then probably couldn't. A couple of people laughed at the attempt. Then the senator continued.

'Why are you so afraid of this man?'

'Because sir, he is the most evil person alive that I know of.'

'And what do you recommend we do about him?'

'If it were me I would recommend an assassin team be formed to eliminate him and his men from the face of the earth.'

The senator disagreed with this approach and that was all they showed of the clip.

It's scary when you think 15 years ago the government was aware of Osama bin Laden and his potential threat to the security of the world. I guess like all great tyrants they start small but if left untended spread like the virus they truly are. 



Washington, DC 19 August 2001 Quote from Vice President Dick Cheney:

"On my way to work last week, I stopped behind a purple Geo Metro with my least favorite bumper sticker ever plastered across the back. It read: "It'll be a great day when schools have all the money they need and the Air Force has to have a bake sale to buy a bomber."

At that moment, I realized who the most undervalued and under-appreciated segment of society is. And it isn't teachers. Teachers, I believe, rank second on that list. Heading the list are the men and women of the armed forces, who, throughout history, have protected our country from the Hitlers and Stalins - they who would have had our white children marching to the school bus in jackboots and our minority children locked up in laboratories and labor camps.

The U.S. military-the most powerful and influential group of people in the world, hands-down-gets an awfully bad rap these days. Many Americans seem to think that simply because the communist Soviet Union no longer exists, the world is as safe as Beaver Cleaver's neighborhood.

This, of course, ignores three facts: 1) Dozens of countries have nuclear weapons that could take out millions of people with the turn of a key. 2) Leaders of several countries (e.g. North Korea, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Lebanon and perhaps China and Russia) would love to see the U.S. and its people blown to pieces and, most importantly; 3) The U.S. has the greatest collection of human, economic, natural and technological resources anywhere on Earth, making it the greatest natural target for military aggression.

Though some would like to fashion the U.S. of the 21st Century as a flowery feel-good fantasy where war and violence are mere after thoughts of a time gone by, that can never be the case. As bad as our crime and drug problems are, we're still considered the jewel of the planet by the half of the world that has yet to make its first phone call.

In ancient Greece, the people of Athens were unparalleled world leaders in art, philosophy and technology. Their rivals in Sparta were not.

Instead, the Spartans built massive, well-trained armies. When the two countries fought, who won? Sparta. And, guess who lost their entire civilization because they didn't think it was important to build an appropriate army? Athens!

Right now, the U.S. has the best of Athens and Sparta: we are the most cultured and most well-defended country in the world. As we continue to lower our defenses by devaluing the military, we open ourselves wider and wider to a takeover.

A takeover of the U.S.? Ridiculous, one might say. But why does it seem so unlikely? Because the power and protection of the U.S. military has been so overwhelming in the last century that Americans have been free to enjoy a comfort level unlike any in the world. We all take it for granted that we will never be invaded by another country, but few other countries can afford to be so sure of themselves.

It's not only Americans who can go to bed feeling safe. Children everywhere from Israel to England, from Brazil to Japan know that, if their country is attacked, the U.S. will be there to help.

On TV, the military is often represented by stiff, buttoned-down generals or the occasional drill sergeant. In reality, things are much different.

The men and women of the armed forces are, in most ways, just like everyone else: they are mechanics, pilots, cooks, photographers, engineers, secretaries and X-ray technicians. They work from 8 to 5 and then come home to their families.

The one difference comes when the U.S. or any of its allies is threatened by a foreign power. In that case, military people pack up and ship out, off to fight -- and many times die-so the rest of the country, including teachers, can continue their lives without interruption.

Teachers mold young minds into intelligent, independent people, and they should be admired for the job they do; however, I don't know any teachers who are required to catch bullets and swallow shrapnel if so ordered by the principal.

So, old-fashioned as it may seem, I'm happy to give my taxes to the military and tell the tots and teachers to fire up the oven if they want extra dough. Make muffins, cookies and candy and be happy you're allowed to. Because, as the old saying goes, if it wasn't for the U.S. military, we'd all be speaking German now."

It is easy to take liberty for granted, when you have never had it taken from you. -- Dick Cheney


Regarding my mail problems, Earthlink informs me that they check port 25, on both dialup and satellite connection, meaning that the Mercury program suggested by Bob Thompson will not work. His comment

You're screwed until that [getting a new ISP when I get DSL] happens. Why are you still using Earthlink anyway? I thought you had a dialup account from IBM or whoever took over their service.

Earthlink talks as though blocking port 25 were a good thing. It's true that having port 25 open allows a spammer to run a local SMTP server, but it wouldn't be more than half an hour before the spammer was discovered doing that. It sounds to me as though Earthlink is trying to make life easy for themselves at the expense of their customers. You need a different ISP.

You're screwed until that happens. Why are you still using Earthlink anyway? I thought you had a dialup account from IBM or whoever took over their service.

Earthlink talks as though blocking port 25 were a good thing. It's true that having port 25 open allows a spammer to run a local SMTP server, but it wouldn't be more than half an hour before the spammer was discovered doing that. It sounds to me as though Earthlink is trying to make life easy for themselves at the expense of their customers. You need a different ISP.

-- Robert Bruce Thompson <> <>

I have used Earthlink since the company was founded because by and large it works, and I can usually find a POP in any city I go to. And up to now I was able to send to my mail list through Outlook by sending a letter to myself with bcc to the subscriber list: it was simple and easy to do, and Earthlink handled it nicely. Once in a while I needed to break the list into parts to get some bad addresses out but I could live with that.

Now they have changed something.  I'll keep the account I suspect (I have to keep the satellite account for a year anyway) but I'll be looking for a better solution to my problems. I still think Earthlink ought to treat long term customers better than people who grab a new account and start sending spam. How hard would that be?




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I read about your recent problems sending main through Earthlink, and found if very depressing, because I've been giving serious thought to dumping my PacBell DSL account [which I've had for several years], and hopping over to Earthlink. My problem with PacBell? Email...

Last year PacBell's Internet division, PBI, got absorbed [outsourced?] by Prodigy. At the beginning of October, all email from my school was blocked. That means I couldn't recevied any mail originating at OCC, and any mail I sent to students at a PacBell address [from OCC] was rejected.

When I complained, I discovered that PacBell has stopped accepting all mail from "open relays", relying on a blacklist published at I've attached the actual reply from the PacBell tech representative. I wonder how many people would sign up for PacBell DSL if they knew they could't send mail back to their family when traveling. It doesn't seem like a selling point.

This last week I found that the missionary newsletter I receive each week from my church is now being rejected.

I guess it's kind of nice not having a lot of email to reply to, but I can't help thinking of the proverb, "Where no oxen are, the stall is clean." I guess we could stop spam entirely by just unplugging all of the mail servers.

BTW, the EFF just did a position paper on this issue, and has been catching a lot of flack for it.

Best, -- Steve ---------------------------------------------- Stephen Gilbert, Orange Coast College CS Dept.,

======== Hello User xxxxx,

I have received your email regarding your mail service.

For this issue you will need to go to This site is OsiruSofts Open Relay Spam Stopper and will answer many of the your questions. You must follow the directions that are listed in this URL.

An example of this issue is; a SBC customers spouse is travelling in Europe. The customer in California emails the spouse in Europe with no problem. But when the spouse in Europe tries to email back an error message is received due to a non-compliant mail server sending the message.

If you cannot find information here, you may want to call Policy Dept. at 877-655-4410

We apologize for this inconvenience.

Thank you for choosing SBC Internet Services.


Shawna Technical Analyst SBC Internet Services

Try our online help at Remember its quick, hassle free, and is always available! 


Good points. For incoming mail Earthlink works pretty well (I don't use their spaminator service because alas I sometimes get mail that looks like spam but is really a press release I wanted, so I make up my own rules on that stuff). I also get mail to my domain and that comes through just fine.

My problem has to do with Earthlink monitoring Port 25 and making it hard for mail to go out. Since all my mail goes out through Earthlink this makes sending to my list a pain, and sometimes I get letters that got IN with about 30 cc's but I can't send a reply to all because some of the addresses fail Earthlink's check. I can live with that.

I don't intend to give up my Earthlink and Pair accounts for incoming mail. What I need is a way to run my own mail server for outgoing mail.

In general, Earthlink is nice to deal with and their tech support people are polite and efficient: I have got replies to my inquiries about what's going on with my outgoing mail. Alas, the replies tell me it's "Policy"; but at least they talk to me.

I am not really as angry at Earthlink as perhaps I make out. 

Incidentally, their "check all mail going out on Port 25" policy applies to the satellite link account as well as land lines. I think they ought to change that for long-standing customers; it's reasonable to do that for new accounts.


I think you'll find Linux is the solution, but if you have less than 10,000 addresses to send to this might help in the short term: 

This may be overkill for your list, but these guys *really* know e-mail since they deliver thousands of items a day. I run a small list with their service (30 people) and it works ! 

regards, James

I am looking into pair's mail services now. It's a bit of a pain to change over the mail formats, but that may be the right way. Thanks.

Then there is this which just came in:

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To be removed from future mailings:

I've already sent this one along to spamcop... But it does show why Earthlink wants to be careful. 

And here a tale of woe from Warren James of HOUR 25:

Earthlink Email Problems


Hi Jerry,

Just a note to let you know that you're not the only one having problems with Earthlink and mailing lists.

Earlier tonight I tried sending out the Hour 25 Newsletter and found that I could not get it through Earthlink's email system. I do what you've been doing. Put together a group in Outlook Express and send my newsletter out to that distribution list using BCC. {I've never bothered to also send it directly to myself, but that has never caused a problem.} This has been working like a champ for more than a year. And everyone's email address is kept private. But no longer. Now I get the following error message.

An unknown error has occurred. Subject 'Hour 25 Newsletter - October 31, 2001', Account: '', Server: '', Protocol: SMTP, Server Response: '550 Syntax error in 'To' header: "@" or "." expected after "Undisclosed-Recipient": failing address is: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>', Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 550, Error Number: 0x800CCC69

So I called Earthlink's tech support. That was a joke. {At least I had a book to read while I waited and listened to their muzac. Guenter Wendt's book "The Unbroken Chain" is quite good and filled with many entertaining stories from the early days of the space program.} After an hour (!!!) I got a tech support person who was, to be charitable, in over her head. After walking her through the problem and explaining that everything had been working fine as recently as two weeks ago I asked her what the problem might be. Her only suggestion was that I reduce the size of my mailing list because Earthlink uses Spam blocks to prevent large numbers of email messages from being sent out at one time. Her suggestion was that 300 names in a mailing list was too many, but that 100 or so would work just fine. She did not offer any other suggestions and when I asked her what they had changed in their system in the last couple of weeks she assured me that they hadn't changed anything and that the email system was operational.

I wonder if Earthlink tells their people to lie or if they are just stupid? Or perhaps they are just uninformed.

After talking to the tech support person I tried a couple of experiments. Sending out a smaller list, this one with 116 names, resulted in the same error message. Sending an email to JUST ONE PERSON using BCC also generated the same error message. {Email sent not using BCC worked fine.}

So this is not a problem with bad email addresses in the mailing list.

Earthlink has apparently modified their email system so that we can no longer use BCC to preserve the privacy of the people we send messages to.

This sucks. I'll be watching your site to see what suggestions your readers offer. Your advice about was spot on and so I expect you'll find an answer and share it with us. But this really ticks me off, seeing whereas I just got Earthlink's DSL and now I'm married to them for at least another year.

I hope this finds you well otherwise. We missed you at Larry's Halloween party. I was looking forward to chatting with you about the state of the world.

Best wishes,


Actually it was a case of a change: they changed their filter from passing about 9 per list to ZERO. I doubt the front line tech support people know this. I managed to get my list sent once I eliminated all the problem addresses, and I use the same technique you do, letter to me, and bcc to the list. It's convenient. It worked for years, and now doesn't and they did change but I suspect they did not tell their techs.

It's a stupid policy on their part, guaranteed to cost them a LOT of tech support time and thus money.

I haven't found their tech support people unhelpful: better than most, actually.

Roberta and I were doing grandparent duty so we missed the party. Ah well.

In your case I definitely recommend you get hold of Pair about their mail list service. You will have fewer problems converting to the right format than I will.





The person who wrote that Oliver North feared Bin Laden as the reason for buying the $60,000 security fence has a poor, or convenient, memory.

North testified that he feared Abu Nidal. Bin Laden wasn’t around then.

“Nidal, Abu Terrorist. North cited a threat from Nidal as the reason he accepted a security fence from Secord.” 

Larry May


While the Internet is a source of many errors, it is sometimes self correcting: the trick is to find places that CARE to be accurate.


I want you to know, I feel your pain. I've had DirecPC (one-way) for about 3 1/2 years, and everything you wrote in your two recent columns is true of my setup as well. From the tone of alt.satellite.direcpc, many feel the pain.

Here's something you can try that I've found to work in speeding up web pages with lots o' little parts: a registry change that works for Win2000 as well as 98/Me. You mention using Win2k so I'll include those settings, the others can be found in the satellite forum FAQ at Great web site for speed freaks, that.

Basically you need to add two registry keys. Below you will find where in the registry to put the keys and what to name the keys. Navigate to the locations specified in the left pane, then in the right pane, right click and choose to create a "New" Dword value. Name them exactly as shown. Once they are there, double click on each and insert the value 15 (HEX). Once you've done that, exit regedit, re-boot. Your work is done.

Win2k: All DWORD Values

HKEY_USERS.DEFAULTSoftwareMicrosoftWindowsCurrentVersionInternet Settings

MaxConnectionsPerServer MaxConnectionsPer1_0Server

HKEY_CURRENT_USERSoftwareMicrosoftWindowsCurrentVersionInternet Settings

MaxConnectionsPerServer MaxConnectionsPer1_0Server

Try loading a page with lots of little images before and after making this change. After, watch the count of files remaining zip to 0. It works.

Here's hoping your cable broadband or dsl comes soon enough. We live out in cow country, Virginia, and I suspect it'll be a while for us. You're correct in your assessment, the old modem is slow, but it always seems to work.


Thanks. That I will try...










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