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The good news is that I'm no longer being dropped by the Netwinder. The bad news is that I'm still short on time, and in short shrift mode...

Dear Dr Pournelle, The Chaos Manor debates on Norman Spinrad's "Too high the moon article" caught my attention. Partly because of the subject matter; while I take a lively interest in the doings of NASA et al., I don't know enough about American politics nor about rocket science - despite considerable effort - to have an informed opinion. Still, I reckon that the total American space effort is the most important endeavour in the world today, because a grass-roots thrust for manned exploration persists. I'd help in any way I could, but like zillions of others world-wide all I can do is cheer from the sidelines. Of several novels by Norman Spinrad I've read, the only one which lives in memory is "Bug Jack Barron". But France and the French world-view have always fascinated me. I hold an honours degree in French language and literature and I lived in Bordeaux for a year (studying Mathematics). A waste of time for an engineer living on the other side of the world, I guess, but can I put forward

Mr Spinrad's article in the site mentioned (Le Monde Diplomatique) was neither shrill nor tendentious. He may have got a number of things wrong, or disagree with a number of policies you or President Reagan stood for, but his is an honest opinion honestly expressed - and oddly respectful.

The French intellectual culture in which the article appeared is quite another matter. Your correspondents know this - look at Mr McCauley's "It is not surprising to see an article of this nature in a French magazine. They have never recovered from their descent to a second rate power. (The only real successes they have seen in the past 200 years was [sic] under Napoleon.)".

This has a kernel of truth but is unfair to the general French public, who suffered more under Napoleon than any nation they conquered. He and the revolution split the nation into two irreconciliable squabbling halves desperate for allies.

Each side needed and hated anglophone approval and assistance. The parti des notables - basically the Catholic middle-class - knew that the Americans were fundamentally on their side against the Communists and communards, but detested the casual American assumption of leadership of the free world. The socialists and communists on the other hand believed in science, industry, the separation of religion from the state and a great many other progressive ideals which America most inconveniently did better at than anyone else.

Mr Spinrad must surely be aware from living there that the culture of French intellectuels de gauche is the most amazing hot-house of conceit and betrayal, bearing strange fruits indeed. But he probably sees what I saw when looking at the Le Monde Diplomatique website. There has been a sea-change in French opinion which began some time in the mid-seventies and is still going on today. The intellectual left is in tatters from internecine strife, and the old knee-jerk anti-Americanism typified by Le Monde in the '60s is gone, hopefully for good, replaced by something not comfortable, but recognisably rational.You only need to examine articles like the one on antiamericanism by Serge Halimi ( http://www.monde-diplomatique.fr/1999/07/HALIMI/12229.html ) to see how French opinion has been cast adrift without a compass, or a wildly gyrating one.

In summary, you shouldn't take Le Monde too seriously. The fundamentals are still that the only real space program is American; if it lost its way for a while, it seems to be finding it again; and the opinions of foreigners, for good or ill, count for nothing.

But I'll still be jumping for joy at every forward step into space. I bet they'll be made by Americans. And I'll bet Norman Spinrad will be as happy as I will be. 

-- Terry Cole admin@maths.otago.ac.nz System Administrator Dept. of Maths and Stats, Otago University PO. Box 56, Dunedin tel:64-3-4797739 NEW ZEALAND fax:64-3-4798427

I suspect this is in part a misunderstanding.  Norman and I are old friends. His wife stayed here while she was visiting the US a few weeks ago, and Norman and I went to dinner several times while I was in Paris last month. We don't always agree, but his opinions are based on rational considerations, and we disagree more on policy than on goals. I have far less confidence in NASA's ability to do anything than he does.


Dr. Pournelle:

The letter from Jim Dodd and the discussion about long distance phone surcharges brings up a point I've considered for several years. Once everybody you want to talk to has a high bandwidth, full time internet connection like DSL or cable, there will be no need for long distance telephone services.

Here in Portland (the one at the other end of I-5) we will soon have what will be close to bandwidth heaven. US West, our Baby Bell, has been offering DSL for almost two years at a total cost of $50 ($30 for the line and $20 for the ISP) for 256K service which typically has over 500K of downstream bandwidth. You even have your choice of ISPs. GTE, which is the telco in many suburbs, has similarly priced service. Because I am 21,000 feet from my telco central office, I could not get US West DSL, so, until last week, I had Covad 144k IDSL (DSL over ISDN). It was $80/month total and was much better than dial-up. However, a week ago Thursday, AT&;T's pissing match with local regulatory authorities was resolved by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals to AT&;T's satisfaction and they began advertising cable modem service here for a total of $40/month. I called last Monday to order the service and they had an installer here at 10:15 a.m. Thursday morning. A little over an hour later I was hooked up. There was no installation charge and no term commitment required. Of course, they could raise their rates next month. The Microsoft speed test reports 2440.2 Kbps and 299 K bytes/sec. According to the installer, I was the first customer on the node and I expect to see less speed as the node fills up. The AT&;T service is limited to 128K upstream and their terms specifically prohibit hanging an internet server on one of their lines.

As there are serious security risks from both DSL and cable, it is essential that some sort of security be implemented. I do not trust the software firewalls offer. I use three solutions for my customers. Two of them are Linux based solutions which turn a "doorstop" computer (a 486 with 8 megs of RAM, 2 ethernet cards and a floppy drive) into a router/NAT box/firewall. The first is Share The Net ( http://www.sharethenet.com ) which costs $70 and has a nice windows based tool which generates a Linux floppy and has a web based administration tool. It works with dial up as well as DSL/cable and seems to work at least as well as your Netwinder. I have one customer using it to share a dial-up with about 15 computers and several customers using it to share a DSL. The second Linux solution is called Coyote Linux ( http://www.coyotelinux.com ). I use Coyote on my home network. There are two versions. There is a Windows based disk generator which costs $40 and a free version which requires a working Linux installation to generate a disk. I have not used the Windows version, but the Linux based version works quite well. It does not yet support a dial-up connection, but it will soon. The third solution I have used for some customers is a dedicated device. I have used the Netgear RT311 (about $200 retail, see: http://www.netgear.com/products/routers.shtml#rt311 ) and the Trendnet TW100-W1CA (about $150 retail, see: http://www.trendware.com/products/cruiser/spec-tw100w1ca.htm ). The Trendnet product reports all ports except 113 as "Stealth" on Steve Gibson's port prober. I am comfortable with the security of any of these solutions. They all offer a reasonably priced way to both share a connection and provide security.

I have read and enjoyed your column since the mid 80's. It was the only reason I kept my Byte subscription for many years. I also have read and enjoyed several of your books. Keep up the good work.

Rick Samuels

Thanks for the information and the kind words.


DLL Explorer will prove helpful in this sort of situation...

See http://www.realsol.com.au/DLL.htm 

The way it works is, you run DLL Explorer, generate a "before" snapshot, load the application you are troubleshooting (or make any change), then generate the "after" snapshot, then compare the two snapshots to generate a "diff" output. That last will contain a list of all libraries loaded and/or called.

Saved my bacon a bunch of times...

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Well, thanks, but, um, suppose someone this isn't intended for (intention being in your mind) reads this and passes it along... Ah. Well.  Thanks again.


Re: Tracy Walters on Microsoft Clustering

Jerry, it's all well and good for a Microsoft-enthusiast to gush over the purported (but not yet delivered) features of Windows 2000.

But to make a rash claim "This is great stuff, and is definitely going to change the way things are done. The reasons businesses purchased Big Iron are quickly being usurped by the Intel platforms." shows a certain narrowness of thought and experience that should alarm her employers.

Give me a break. The 'new' features that Win2k reportedly bring to the the table are nothing more than any self-respecting commercial Unix (and OS/390 and OS/400 and a number of other systems) have been quietly implementing 'in real time' for 20 and more years. And not just on web pages or tightly controlled lab experiments. In the real world.

Microsoft is intent in reinventing the wheel. There are no 'new' features in Windows 2000 that haven't been available in the rest of the industry for quite a long time. Additionally, as Microsoft 'adopts' the 'good ideas' from the rest of the industry they often break them completely and leave problem resolution to the bug fix (oops, 'service packs') releases that we've all grown accustomed to.

This is especially true for any 'security' or 'authentication' scheme that you might find in Windows 2000. The Win2k implementation of Kerberos in particular is not only broken, but it leaves ill-educated administrators and managers with a false sense of security after having installed a supposedly 'secure' ticket/authentication scheme. Additionally MS-Kerberos is unable to interoperate with existing Kerberos servers, meaning that established Kerberos 'systems' have to either ignore the Win2k systems or themselves operate in a degraded mode.

Win2k is full of these examples.

If one restricts their criticism of Win2k to desktop (single user) issues, all is well. But even in comparison to the wonderful stability of Windows NT v3.51, recent releases of NT and now Win2k have a shoddy coding feel to them and introduce dangerous reliability and security problems that even flash web promises from Redmond have a hard time covering up.

Why of why can't we expect MS to get it right, the first time? For once?

thanks

Chuck Kuhlman

No opinion yet. I'm finding I like Windows 2000 although I know how to crash it to hardware reset level. See column. But it's pretty good, both Server and Professional Workstation. And apparently my Netwinder Linux box is the one that's giving me communications problems...


Jerry, Roland Dobbins said: Mr. Walters is incorrect - true clustering for various flavors of *NIX has been available for quite some time, although it has (and still does) require a fair amount of technical savvy, not to mention applications coded to take advantage of clustering, to set it up. The UnixWare clustering announcement is a last (or next-to-the-last) gasp by a dying company to try and revive its flagging fortunes. Clustering on Linux, Solaris, etc. is a growing market segment, as is cross-platform distributed computing (see www.distributed.net <http://www.distributed.net> ). But to claim that the UnixWare stuff is somehow revolutionary is just dead wrong. There are various load-balancing and bandwidth-balancing schemes out there for all platforms, and most of them don't work that well. But they're certainly available in other clustering environments besides the UnixWare one.

Well, okay. I admit that I am not Mr. Unix ( I come from a Microsoft shop, and we really like what use!). Apparently I misread what was said about the products. It seemed to be a comparison to the Microsoft Technologies presently in use.

Mr. Dobbins has my respect, by proxy from you, Jerry.

Thanks for setting me straight.

Tracy Walters, Networking Rocky Mountain Technology Group



Jerry

Why are you still writing (latest Byte column) that the Castlewood Orb &; CD writing do not work under Win2k? My Orb works fine both in USB mode and SCSI mode. Win2k automatically installs the correct drivers.

My Mitsumi 4x write SCSI CD writer works fine on an old Adaptec 1505 using Adaptec EZ CD Creator 3.5c.

I *did* have a hard time with my Hollywood RealMagic Plus until I made a BIOS change: PNP OS = NO.

Jonathan Sturm

I am still writing it because it SAID SO ON THE BOX and IN THE INSTRUCTIONS that came with the ORB. I have also said, many times, that SCSI is SCSI and works generally with anything, but IDE and USB take OS specific support. But when the ORB instructions SAY not to try it with Windows 2000 I take them at their word. Perhaps it does work. I will try. But I am not usually in the habit of thinking publishers claim too little.

Moreover, I have never said that CD-R doesn't work, particularly with SCSI; the problem comes with CD-R/W and Adaptec Direct CD. Plextor has handed me a new version of the Plexwriter that among other things TURNS OFF THE LASER when it detects underflow, and which should do CD-R/W formatting better and which they say will work reliably with the new Adaptec software to be in Windows 2000. I brought that home with me, and I will try it, and I am sure it will work and that will be in the next column. The newest CD-R/W with better control of the laser may turn out to be very useful with Adaptec Direct CD in the latest version. We will see.

I will try the USB Orb with 2000 shortly. It may work although the box says it will not. I think I'll wait for Castlewood to tell me the IDE version will work...

Canon's website specifically says that my transparency scanner (FS2710) works with Win2k. It didn't until I discovered through Steve Gibson's SCSI-ID applet that I needed a driver from Adaptec. Windows Update said I didn't need an updated driver as I had the latest. Canon were no help as they haven't discovered email, don't answer long distance phone calls inside an hour and don't respond to faxes!

If we believed everything that software or hardware manufacturers said about their product, there would be no need for your Chaos Manor column. It's still required reading :-)

Jonathan Sturm

Well, thanks. We can agree on much there... I'll get to the tests shortly.

 


Jerry-

I just read your article and wanted to pass along some information. I too have a Plextor 4x CD-R drive. The only difference is that it's an internal SCSI unit. I've been using it with Windows 2000 since it was released, with Adaptec's Easy CD Creator 4 software (including the 4.02 updates from their web site) and it works like a charm. Not a single failed burn.

When I researched CD-R drives in January of 1999, when I bought the Plextor, the general concensus was to stay far, far away from IDE/ATAPI burners, and go straight to the SCSI driver. I took that one step further and built a completely SCSI system, but you don't have to be as extreme as me :-)

Good luck!

-- Paul A. Howes pahowes@fair-ware.com

SCSI once you have the cables right and get termination right generally works when other stuff won't. Anyway, Plextor did it right with their newest units, and these will, they say, work with 2000 without problems. I'll install one tonight or Wednesday. Thanks.


I was a Win98 user and upgraded to Win2K thinking everything was supported. NOT! My HP CD Writer not only did not work, but having its software drivers loaded caused Win2K to do strange things. I tried to find updated drivers from HP -- NOT! They finally released them a couple of months ago. Could you download them -- NOT! OK, I call and order for $25 -- "Thank you for your order, the product will be shipped in 2 weeks. No, you cannot download it." Somehow, the new directions for HP under the new management seem at odds with the real world.

The drive finally works great under Win2K but I am wary of HP products, now.

Best,

Joe McDaniel (My opinions do not necessarily reflect those of my company......)

My only HP CD-R is ancient, SCSI 1 I think, and I doubt I still have it any longer. I have gone over pretty well to Plexwriters for burning CD's and CD-R/W, although I have a reliable TEAC SCSI external that does well on CD-R.


Before I install any software, I assign letter M: to my CD-ROM drive and then if my SCSI drives take letter D: It is not a problem. More generally, leave drive letters D: and some subsequent letters open.

 Les Faby Technical Instructor/Course Developer Business Critical Server Division Compaq Computer Corp.,  * mailto:Les.Faby@compaq.com <mailto:les.faby@compaq.com>

I generally assign R: to a writable drive and the ORD got O:, but if you boot this system with the internal IDE ORB in it with a cartridge (preformatted from Castlewood) then it takes over D: displacing the CD-ROM.  If you assign the CD-ROM a late letter there are programs that blow: they expect to see it just after the hard drive, and if they do not they think you are playing networking games and their copy protection schemes kick in. Alas.


Dear Dr. Pournelle,

Recent experience in telephone company central offices and with a flaky DSL connection prompts me to suggest that you might be cursed with a bad network card at the telco CO. This is the card that does the final conversion on your signal, then connects to the local loop to your telephone. For your Department of Useless Information, this card might be any size from 4"x6" to 18"x24". The CO has as many of these cards as they need (a lot), and a single component failing on a single card can disable or inconvenience one or more customers, Call your friendly telephone repair person, who can check your card by substitution. At worst, you will be where you are now.

William L. Jones wljones@dallas.net

Thanks. That ain't it, but it's useful information.

 

 

 

 

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Jerry, Like the column, read regularly, yada, yada, yada. A suggestion: you often include references to other sites on your pages, printing the URL. Would you consider making them actual links? I'm sure you know how, as you often include links to other portions of your own site.

There are good reasons for doing this, principally that we can click on it and *go*. Quite often these links are too long for one line, and are cut onto the next line, breaking the URL, and meaning a couple of cut and pastes to get it working.

I can understand that there might be reasons for doing it this way, but I think we can overcome these. Possibilities: - you worry that people will leave your site and not come back (I suppose its possible) solution: include a target="windowname" attribute in the tag. eg: <a href= "http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et?ac=000143789351982&;rtmo=lnPoHHHt&;atmo=rrrrrrrq&;pg=/et/00/7/2/wisr02.html " target="other">a frightening item </a>

- you feel people like to see the URL solution: they still can - it appears in the bottom line of most browsers when the mouse is placed over the URL.

I think this is a useful idea and would make your pages much more navigable.

Thanks for the time Lea

You are mostly talking about mail, and I pretty well post that as I get it. I don't generally have time to chop and paste the mail. Also, FrontPage doesn't make links if there is anything fore or aft: (www.byte.com) won't be a link, but ( www.byte.com ) will be, as an example. I can go up to the non-link and put spaces fore and aft, but if I'm low on time that won't happen.

So I does the best I can... Thanks for the kind words. And I don't know how to deal with enormous URL's, although I suppose I can cut and paste myself if I have time. I've used Notepad (well, NoteTab) to do that.


Re: Head Start Charts

Jerry-

That's all well and good I guess, then we could have even more dunderheads with money than we do now. The point of the program is to make it possible for at least some of those kids to participate successfully in the educational system (however flawed some portion of it may seem to be). Kids with uneducated and/or uncaring parents do not come out of the same starting gate as those with caring educated, or even determined uneducated parents. If something isn't done to fill that gap we all pay a lot more dealing with the results. Not everything can be reduced to the bottom line returns in next quarters report. Respectfully,

R. Paul Hampson

I think Woodhill's point is that the program isn't working, and we could save ourselves a lot of money and help the target group more in other ways.

The shocking thing about Head Start is that it does not teach the Head Start kids to read. One would think that would a meaningful head start given the miserable state of reading instruction in the US, but the Teachers Union, which is at war with the People of the United States (From the National Commission on Education Report in 1983: "If a foreign nation had imposed this system of education on the United States we would rightfully consider it an act of war.") has managed to forbid Head Start from teaching the kids to read.

The mechanism is the phrase "developmentally appropriate" which is in the Head Start enabling act. The Department of Education, which is to say the creature of the Teacher's Unions, has interpreted that to mean that it is illegal for Head Start to teach the kids to read. These kids then get to the public schools where no more than 70% learn to read in 12 years (and the number of functional illiterates is higher).  They are then suitable candidates to be hewers of wood and drawers of water, and one supposes this is the intended result since it is certainly the predictable result.

Most Classroom teachers break their hearts trying to do their job while their organizations work to protect the least competent and most lazy members of their "profession" from the consequences of incompetence and laziness; with this kind of result. The intelligent members of society home school or send their kids to anything but public schools (that includes at last survey more than half the public school teachers and virtually ALL Washington public officials in both Congress and the White House). We all know this, no one cares, and the money for Head Start doesn't go to the kids but to people whose efforts do not seem to accomplish much; and that was what Woodhill was trying to show, I think.

Excuse the rant, but it rankles.


Hello Jerry, I've enjoyed reading your column regularly for more than 15 years, first in print, and more recently in byte.com. I also drop in to browse Chaos Manor occasionally, and was surprised to see a link to an article on the arson at the Ya'ar Ramot Synagogue. I'm very disturbed at the thought that a casual visitor to your site might base his impression of Israel on that article. If I recall correctly, you visited here not long ago. When I have visitors from abroad, the first thing I try to impress upon them is how complex almost every facet of Israeli life is; I hope your hosts did likewise. In the last 52 years Israel has fought 6 wars, absorbed immigrants from all over the world, and built the only democracy in the Middle East. There is too much verbal and physical violence in Israeli civil society; there are also many amazing examples of people from diverse backgrounds living together and building communities together. The article you linked doesn't contain any untruth, as far as I know. I don't have time to deconstruct the entire article, but I would strongly urge any of your readers who want to know what is going on in Israel not to base their impression on this one article.

Aharon Manne Eshchar M.P. Misgav Israel e-mail: manne@harvard.post.com

Good grief. Is there anyone here who got that impression? What are we supposed to be guarding against? Then there is this:

Hi Jerry

I read the article by Tom Gross. All I can say is don't believe everything you read in the papers.

Not that it didn't happen. The arson attack did happen. And let me start by condemning the attack. But this journalistic expectation of civil war is all to much "hot air."

I think I've heard the expression "civil war" many times over the years I lived here in Israel. It's not realistic at all.

Many items are not made clear in this article.

1. The "secular" in Israel are not interested in the Reform and Conservative movements as such. They see the Reform and Conservative movements as a means to get at the establishment Ultra-orthodox and Orthodox. These movements (Reform and Conservative), significant in the US, are numerically insignificant in Israel.

2. There is no apparent "deterioration" at the Western (Wailing) Wall. In fact the local reports say that the "Reform Jews from Florida" were mostly ignored. An improvement on other occasions.

3. International attention on an attack of a Conservative synagogue is in marked comparison with similar attacks on Orthodox synagogues or establishments, which are ignored internationally.

4. The paragraph linking the "29-year-old secular Jewish woman" with the "recent decrees by the ultra-Orthodox" is misleading. She would be unaffected by any such "decree." (In addition, would an attack on the Hamish in the US for rejecting an element of modern society be acceptable in the US?)

5. Yes, "the name of God was deliberately excluded from its declaration of independence." However the phrase "Rock of Israel" was used, which everyone knew referred to God.

6. Most of the Ultra-orthodox political parties are actually in decline, and their influence has also declined. The only exception is the Shas party, whose rise in influence has little to do with birth rates and a lot to do with attracting a large proportion of "average" voters from one of the more established parties.

There are many other parts of the report, which are misleading and incomplete. There are many other points that I could bring to show how far this article is from reality.

Israel is a modern nation, with many of the problems of all modern nations. Like everywhere, we have our share of lunatics, but most people are sane. Articles like the one in the Telegraph are just journalists making money, they do not deal with the real issues that confront most Israelis.

Regards Richard Dahl

Once again, good grief.


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Dr Pournelle,

My contention is that this is just another kind of bait-and-hook message. Even the DOD doesn't blame someone for reading their secrets if they screw up and give them to you.

Jim Snover

Given the litigiousness of the US legal profession, one wonders.


Jerry, Regarding your spam about earning money in Mail June 27 2000. I have used spamcop.net for these kinds of messages with great success. I very seldom get a second message after using this service. Regards, Steve

I spend about 10 minutes a day reporting Spam to Spamcop (they don't make it all that easy what with all the cut and paste I have to do). That's all the time I have. I often wonder if it does any good.


From Ed Hume; source not known to me.

OK, I'm the only female in a house full of guys. Four sons and a hubby. Toilet seat is never down...etc.

So I'm the only one who would be using Female products. . . correct?

A STRANGE thing was happening at my house. Tampons were disappearing.

* insert Twilight Zone theme*

A few months ago I went to my cupboard to get out a Tampon and there was ONLY one left. I could have sworn I had just bought a box the month before. So, I go back to the store, buy a new box and forget about it.

The next month (T.O.M.) I go back to the cupboard . . . and voila . . . there is only ONE tampon left again. What's going on here? Gremlins??? I go to the store and buy another box, and forget about it.

WELL . . . I decided to clean out my two youngest sons closet and LOW and BEHOLD. . .at the bottom of their closet are the wrappers, applicators and the tampons themselves.

I am starting to FREAK!!! Dear God, what are they doing with them?

I get hold of myself . . . and tell myself that "I am an adult" and can handle this, despite the bizarre thoughts running through my mind. I'm thinking . . . . "Do I have enough money saved up in the bank for MAJOR THERAPY?"

I go to the top of the stairs and yell for my two youngest sons to, "COME HERE"!!!!

They march up the stairs and find me in their room staring into the bottom of their closet.

I said, "What are you doing with Those, Those are MINE?"

My 12-year old looks like a deer caught in the headlights and is silent.

My 10-year old looks at me all innocent and says, "Well, Mom, We were playing with our G. I. Joes and figurines and those make Really good S.C.U.D. missiles!! What do YOU use them for?"

NEVER MIND

Go play

(And yes, I know that SCUD isn't an acronym.)


Dear Dr. Pournelle The following paragraph is an extract from an editorial in the "Hindu" (a major Indian national newspaper) dated June 21 2000 (Page 12).

The Revelations of a study carried out by the Environmental Assessment Division of the Bhabba Atomic Research Center (BARC) on the exposure of a group of villages in Karunagapally taluk of Kerala to much higher dose of natural radiation from a monazite belt than the global level is shocking. Surprisingly, there has, however, been as yet no indications of any deleterious impact on the health of the people exposed to the radiation This is probably the first time that there is a disclosure of our having to reckon with natural radiation as a hazard.....It is also a little unnerving to know that the area is one of the few High Background Radiation Areas in the world. Since the study has said very little about the impact of the exposure on the health of the people living in the taluk, it is presumed that the doses of inhalation have so far not done much harm......

The editorial goes of on a political tangent about radiation proof housing and government blame and the ills of the nuclear industry in general. The writer does not seem to have heard of the Radon scare in the U.S.A. and the "much higher" is typical. No numbers. Numbers are bad they might bore people or worse give them a basis for making intelligent judgements.

Sorry for the rant.

Why I brought this to your attention was the comment you made or said J.P.Hogan made that there is a possibility of there being a threshold below which radiation is harmless. Would surveys of people in such areas provide evidence? Of course long term - tens or hundred's of generations - populations might have evolved immunity. Genetic methods might however be able to identify such changes.

However demographic surveys should be able to identify groups from first generation new comers to people who have lived in the locality for generations. A full general health cum family history survey (medical and demographic) along with contour maps of background count in several such localities might go a long way to proving or disproving the hypothesis. Since the population of a taluk is about that of a U.S. rural couty - smaller area but higher density - sample size shouldn't be a problem.

There are several advantages to using Kerala. The population density is high. The literary rate is almost 100% and everyone speaks English. Most people would accept answering a survey for getting a free check up. A possible drawback might be the left wing nature of the government in power at the state level. They might resent "outsiders" and even if positive minded I doubt if they would be interested to the extent of providing funding. A way around their attitude might be to enlist central government organizations like the Council for Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR) or the Indian Medical Council - in name at least.

However the financing would have to come from elsewhere. A source might be the private nuclear industry in the U.S.A. They might have an interest in financing a study that at best would do a lot to de-demonise nuclear power and at the worst would only echo the current "perceived wisdom".

Of course the actual work would have to be done by a third party to avoid charges of bias and cooked data. From that point also Kerala is ideal. The state has a strong Christian minority and the Church (both Roman and Protestants of various denominations) runs missions which include hospitals and health care.

Given equipment and/or finance they could certainly provide the primary data, and I would be very surprised if the Jesuits at least do not have men who could design, conduct and analyse the survey.

Of course the Church is just one option. The Red Cross or WHO would probably have the manpower and probably so do several organisations like "Doctors Without Borders". However the anti nuclear lobby does have strong representation in some of these groups and they do lack the infrastructure the Church already has in Kerala.

Whoever does the actual work "consultants" from USA and organisations like the CSIR could smooth things with the state government.

Considering that Fission Power is essential for the medium / long term survival of human civilisation I feel that pushing private industry to fund such an investigation would be a worthwhile effort 

yours sincerely Ramesh Nayar

The Swedish Army has done studies of background radiation levels and effects on Laplanders and conscripts, and I believe they have concluded that the hormesis effect is real: there is a level at which radiation is actually beneficial (it's a pretty low level).  I should look up some of those but it won't be today.


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Dr. Pournelle,

Stand by for static! You've broken an unwritten rule - it is essential to act as if all things Linux are flawless, and your having aired your recent difficulties with Netwinder will draw down the ire of the truly committed. Your character and intelligence will be impugned and your motives questioned. The psychodynamics are predictable, and inescapable.

By the way, I shield my internal network from my cable modem with a dual-homed Win98SE box with no ports or services available, LanBridge software doing NAT duties, and BlackICE Defender for firewall services. I reboot the gateway once a week after running disk defrag. I never have any problems with it. Of course, that's because I I understand it.

Don McArthur http://www.mcarthurweb.com 

Well, possibly. UNIX was intentionally made difficult to understand, at first by simple brevity but then for the sheer fun of confusing people who didn't want to become experts. That had the added merit of assuring employment for gurus and wizards. Apparently Linux is doing much the same.

I assume S10 is the S10 register of a modem, but I cannot be abolutely certain of it. I do know there ought to be some command that will tell the Netwinder "Look, I don't care what you thought you saw or the trouble you had, forget all that and try dialing again."  But if there is I cannot find it, and resetting the system is a drastic way to accomplish it. But necessary.

 

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> With those assignments, if you boot with a cartridge in the drive, the ORB > takes over D:, displaces the CD-ROM to E: - and still reserves the O: slot > for itself as well. There doesn't seem to be anything to do about this. > Iomega internal ZIP drives used to have similar difficulties, but if you > assign the ZIP drive the letter Z:, then it stays that way whether or not > there's a ZIP cartridge in the drive. Moreover, the ZIP drive > automatically ejects its cartridge on shutdown, so there's no cartridge in > the drive when you reset. I wish ORB behaved as well. Of course, if > Iomega can solve the problem of wandering drive letters, one presumes > Castlewood can also.

I, too, have an ORB drive and love it.

Since I found the luxury of being able to assign my CD-ROM to something other than D:, I have done so. My CD-ROMs are almost always R: (for ROM, I suppose), leaving me the ability to add hard-drives and not cause problems with Winprograms that are looking for the CD. Why not do something similar yourself?

 Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApplications, Tucson, Arizona 

The problem comes with some games: the CDROM must be the lowest letter other than a hard drive, or the game cannot find it. I presume that's to keep you from copying it to an Orb or other removable. I can probably hack that but I don't want or need to. If the CD is D: then all is well; if it is E: or R: then the game can't find it.  Older games were particularly nauseating in that respect: try Warcraft 2 on a system with multiple CDROM drives if you would like to go mad.

ZIP solves the problem by forcibly ejecting the cartridge on shutdown. There are probably other ways.  Castlewood just hasn't thought it through. I am told there are ways to repartition the ORB cartridges, too, but I confess I don't care. This was formatted by the ORB, and it ought to work without much user intervention.

Early ORB drives had dust problems. They seem to have fixed those. Now they need to look to their software and to W 2000 drivers.

Incidentally I found that if I type :) in WORD it becomes a smiley face. Alas not in the FrontPage editor...


The collective mind is now at work... we'll get this fixed. Mr. Roland Dobbins, who has been invaluable in setting stuff up here, suggests I go back to Linette and do a real Linux box with more standard interface. I certainly can, but the joy of the Rebel was that it just worked without my having to DO anything...

Meanwhile, suggestions come in. Roland will come look at the system in a day or so. And All Works Fine with the modem attached directly to the W 2000 box but of course that can make for security problems...

Dr. Pournelle,

Briefly, the problem has to originate in a hardware problem, as Linux isn't very robust against hardware problems. S10 is almost certainly described as follows (from the FREEBSD Handbook)

//// To see if your kernel recognizes any of your serial ports, watch for messages while the kernel is booting, or use the /sbin/dmesg command to replay the kernel's boot messages. In particular, look for messages that start with the characters sio. Hint: to view just the messages that have the word sio, use the command:

# /sbin/dmesg | grep 'sio'

For example, on a system with four serial ports, these are the serial-port specific kernel boot messages:

sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A sio2 at 0x3e8-0x3ef irq 5 on isa sio2: type 16550A sio3 at 0x2e8-0x2ef irq 9 on isa sio3: type 16550A

If your kernel does not recognize all of your serial ports, you will probably need to configure a custom FreeBSD kernel for your system. ////

What this means is that you are receiving a message from SIO (which may be your Netwinder's only serial port?) which says there is a hardware problem, and it might be line noise causing the error the modem thinks it's seeing. But I think it's a software problem -- the software can't handle the hardware problem so it hangs. (I had something similar but replacing the modem solved it.)

As for the solution, I just don't have enough info, wish I could help.

By the way, wireless high speed (internet) links are coming out, and are available where I live. Hopefully this will soon reach your area.

Regards,

-Pierre Mihok

Thanks for the suggestions. We are going to zero in on this, and I have the Rebel people looking.  

Jerry,

I don't have a solution for your problem, but the sl0/s10 is probably referencing sl0 (ess ell zero) - Don't you hate the ambiguity between 1 and l with some fonts? anyway, sl0 is the network device usually used by a program called diald (dial on demand daemon) to detect network traffic and control the link being up or down.

I use it here myself, and of course have never seen the error message you are describing. But actually the Netwinder is a commercial product, right? It should have support included, and you shouldn't have to try to noodle this one out yourself.

Switching to NT won't make you any happier, it will just give you a new set of problems to figure out. at least with Linux systems you can normally count on a fixed problem staying fixed. As opposed to NT and other windows systems repeatedly breaking in similar ways.

Good luck!

Brian

Roland keeps telling me the same thing. Thanks to all of you... And see BELOW


I just read your report on the Castlewood Orb drive, and I have a few things to say about the product, based on my mixed experiences with the Sparq drive.

To begin with, the Castlewood Orb is a slightly re-engineered Sparq.

Back when you were first recommending the Sparq, I did some research, and found that there was a possible competitor in the works from an unknown firm called Castlewood (called the Orb drive), but that the Orb was being delayed by litigation (it may have been pending litigation) from Syquest involving some sort of infringement. I went ahead and purchased a Sparq drive for home use, and had very few problems with it.

I HOPE for the sake of all Orb users that the re-engineering of the Sparq design by Castlewood resulted in a more reliable removable cartridge than the Sparq's. As the drive and the cartridge look an awful lot like the Sparq, I have my doubts.

As I mentioned above, my experiences with Sparq have been mixed. I purchased a drive for home use and had few problems. After three months of fairly intense use, I recommended we use it at my office for local drive backups, as well as exchange of large amounts of data between home-office and work-office computers. Three drives were purchased for three of us power users, as well as about thirty cartridges. At that point, the real trouble began.

Sparq cartridges shared a design flaw with most other removable media: they were not sealed, nor were their innards shock-mounted. With flexible media, such as floppies, Bernoulli carts, and Zipdrive carts, this is acceptable and designed for. Sparq cartridges contained a Winchester platter. If you dropped one, it was probably toast. If dust got into one, it was probably toast. This fragility was bad enough, but something in the nature of the drive created a deadly, contagious plague of bad cartridges and drives. If one cartridge went bad, or worse yet, came from the factory bad, and it was inserted into a good drive, the drive would probably go bad. If you inserted a good cartridge into a bad drive, the cartridge would probably go bad. The flood of RMA's resulting from this sank Syquest.

At my office, we had an outbreak of this plague, which we managed to contain by quarantine after it killed two drives and around half a dozen carts. I do not know whether it began in a bad cart or a bad drive. The third power user was warned not to let any of his Sparq gear come into contact with any of the plagued gear, and he escaped trouble, as did our LAN manager, who was by then using an external Sparq drive. As quickly as we could, we replaced all the Sparq equipment with HP CD-RW's. I also did this at home, and migrated everything on Sparq cartridges onto CD's.

At home, I was lucky. Neither my drive nor my carts contracted the plague. Then again, I never dropped any cartridges, nor did I break quarantine between home and office equipment once the plague broke out. You probably never dropped any Sparq cartridges, either, and you probably also never let your Sparq equipment come into contact with anyone else's. Therefore, you had few, if any, problems.

IF the Orb drive is fundamentally the same design as the Sparq drive, i.e., Winchester platter inside an unsealed cartridge, with the drive heads contained in the host drive, it is likely that it, too, is susceptible to the same plague that killed the Sparq. If Castlewood got smart and sealed everything movable inside the cartridge, I don't think anyone has anything to worry about. I have never seen an Orb cart up close, so I don't know. If it looks like there are no electrical contacts on the cartridge, and it looks like there is some sort of sliding door on the edge that goes first into the drive, it is not sealed. Sooner or later, dust will get in and cause trouble. If Castlewood has figured out how to keep a bad cart from ruining the drive (which will, in turn, ruin every subsequent cart inserted into it), it will not be as perilous as the Sparq, but I would still not call it completely safe. Unsealed Winchesters never are.

Sincerely,

James G. Jackson

Thanks for the excellent discussion. My problem with the SPARQ was MOUNTING the disks: after months of use, it was very difficult to get the drive to accept a cartridge and mount it. Once it did, it worked fine. I did return one drive, it worked after I got it back, and then died again; by that time the company was gone, and it was pointless to speak ill of the dead.  But I had about 10 of them and only one went bad, oddly enough.

I didn't do anything with ORB for a year or so, in part because my friends at PC Power and Cooling had problems with dust  just as you say. The new ones I have seem to work, but I don't know why they don't have dust problems either: they say they have re-engineered things to clean the heads before use and while that puts in a delay it also makes it more reliable.  

My own judgment is that DVD-RAM is going to eat this entire problem; DVD-RAM works, it is fast, it is cheap, and the resulting disks are highly stable compared to any electronic medium. My experiences with Castlewood Orb have been good, but I don't trust removable magnetic media for anything important, and I don't really trust fixed magnetic media for long periods. I like writing important data to CD-ROM (and now to DVD-RAM) and keep a copy off premises...

Thanks again.


And here we go:

Jerry, I did a search through the source code to Linux, and came across a reference to sl0, L as in Larry.. sl0 is apparently the name given to the first SLIP (Serial Line IP) driver configured on a particular Linux box, and the 'bad line quality' message appears to be reported when the SLIP driver has spent at least 20 seconds trying to transmit a single packet without success.

It has nothing to do with the S10 register in the modem.

It has been a long while since I have run SLIP (and it surprises me greatly that the Netwinder wouldn't be using PPP instead, which is more widely used these days and tends to perform better), but I suspect that you'd have a decent chance at unsticking things by doing

/sbin/ifconfig /dev/sl0 down /sbin/ifconfig /dev/sl0 up

from a root login on the Netwinder, which will reset the device driver for the SLIP connection.

Unfortunately, this sort of thing is generally meant to be done by the scripts that the Netwinder would use for getting you on and off the net, and I'm not sure whether or not there would be any adverse consequences to doing this.

Probably well worth a try, though, if you get stuck on that error message.

The real question, of course, is why is the serial link failing to communicate properly. As I doubt you have changed any essential software on the Netwinder, I suspect that it is something in the hardware or on the ISP's side of the fence.

If you can, I would recommend trying to use PPP rather than SLIP, on the off chance that something in the SLIP code has a vulnerability that is tripping you up here. The SLIP code doesn't appear to have been touched in the Linux kernel since 1994, however, so I would assume it to be well debugged and very stable, but the PPP code looks as though it might have more generous behavior in the case of transmission difficulties.

Bear in mind that I am not a Linux device driver expert, and I've just done a superficial reading of the kernel code in question. Perhaps another of your readers will be able to do more.

Jonathan Abbey Applied Research Laboratories, The University of Texas at Austin

Thanks. We'll get this yet!

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Dear Jerry, sometimes Microsoft wants to make you scream! They seem to do it to themselves! Heaven help the Justice Department if they ever manage to get inside of MS, lets hope the government doesn't get contaminated by this sickness!

I wanted to install a newer (and hopefully more efficient) disk defragmenter in the light version onto my WinNT4sp6a Server that putts along just fine, and the Program requires me to download Microsoft Console Something, which must have IE4 or later to install and work which is necessary for the Light program to work. Okay I'm on ADSL so I try to go to microsoft IE update page from the browser (IE3 pre-installed with the OS) and it says I can't get there. Just updated a Win98 to IE5.01 on another computer and remember that there is a new page, it's not www.microsoft.com/ie/ anymore, but now it's www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/ (DOJ influence?) and so go to another computer, write down the exact URL, and try again. No luck - "this page can not be found". Try going up to root to http://www.microsoft.com/ - "directory access denied". Internet problems? No - I can get anywhere else, just not to www.MS.com and be able to see any pages, anywhere that I can find. Have they ASPholed all the pages visible to older browsers?

The IRONY of it all is that I may need to go to NETSCAPE and download a more recent browser to be able go update my IE. Netscape at least recognizes immediately that it is an old browser, says I need a newer version that can use java to see their site, and provide a html link to the page, again in visible (old) html to be able to download what I need. Absurdity!!

Keep up the good work.

James Siddall jr jsiddall(at)tiscalinet.it

I guess I don't quite understand what you are trying to do, but I have often found Microsoft's web navigation an arcane skill...

Dr Pournelle,

Regarding the email note about someone trying to upgrade from IE3, this is a classic chicken before the egg problem. I don't think it's possible to jump straight to IE5 from IE3 no matter how hard you try. You first have to use MS's confusing and continually re-organized manual download pages to find the complete download of IE4 (not just the installer, the complete thing), download and install that first, THEN and ONLY THEN can MS's normal installer web pages be used to get current patches and updates.

Since MS keeps mucking around with their download menus (they keep hiding any files that might be remotely useful under more and more ambiguous search layers) , I can only assume that they have done this on purpose to frustrate people into buying or pirating an OS upgrade.

Sean Long

How truly good!


Jerry, Did I open a bag of worms here, or what. I don't want to get in a contest of wills between different religious platform views. In fact, I really despise personal attacks.

Jerry Kuhlman said: Jerry, it's all well and good for a Microsoft-enthusiast to gush over the purported (but not yet delivered) features of Windows 2000. But to make a rash claim "This is great stuff, and is definitely going to change the way things are done. The reasons businesses purchased Big Iron are quickly being usurped by the Intel platforms." shows a certain narrowness of thought and experience that should alarm her employers.

I actually made that statement about the Unix product by a third party, not anything Microsoft has done. Perhaps you should reread the original post before you slam me. Mr. Dobbins already corrected me about that company and their Unix solutions.

I, by the way, have implemented large IBM OS/390 systems and am not unfamiliar with what is available there. Of course, the price difference is in orders of magnitude and completely out of reach for many companies. Another by the way, I am not a she, and you should not make assumptions without the facts to support them. Nor am I "ill-educated" or "narrow-minded". Perhaps you should consider your attitude toward Microsoft and it's products before you make this statement.

Give me a break. The 'new' features that Win2k reportedly bring to the table are nothing more than any self-respecting commercial Unix (and OS/390 and OS/400 and a number of other systems) have been quietly implementing 'in real time' for 20 and more years. And not just on web pages or tightly controlled lab experiments. In the real world.

I can assure you, Windows 2000, Active Directory, load balancing and clustering are not 'lab experiments', but real, delivered, functioning products, deployed in the real world. For some reason, there is real desire by Microsoft detractors to completely disregard any Microsoft product as unimportant, unneeded, and unworthy.

This is especially true for any 'security' or 'authentication' scheme that you might find in Windows 2000. The Win2k implementation of Kerberos in particular is not only broken, but it leaves ill-educated administrators and managers with a false sense of security after having installed a supposedly 'secure' ticket/authentication scheme. Additionally MS-Kerberos is unable to interoperate with existing Kerberos servers, meaning that established Kerberos 'systems' have to either ignore the Win2k systems or themselves operate in a degraded mode.

There are holes in the Kerberos system which is delivered with Win2K. I won't dispute that. So, in your estimation, Microsoft is very, very bad for implementing it. It's not perfect out of the box. Everybody else does it right the first time. And no one can develop third party solutions for Microsoft products.

Give ME a break. Third party stuff made Unix viable. OS/390 has had many, many releases and bug fixes, whether you call them service packs or a service release, of which I received routinely when I ran an IBM shop. It's a matter of delivery methods and semantics.

Jerry, I'm really sorry I ranted here. But after being accused of being heretical, and then being raked over the coals for being an implementer of Microsoft solutions, I felt need of responding. I don't try to portray Microsoft as better than anyone else, but it is the solution I feel most comfortable implementing. No, it doesn't fit every need, but it does fit a lot of business needs. And folks who say it is bad just because it has the label 'Microsoft', ought to be more concerned about keeping up to date on the products, rather than just keeping them out.

Tracy Walters

The interesting thing is that some enlightenment comes out of all this. I do prefer civil exchanges of views, as with you and Mr. Dobbins, but I haven't always time to edit. I will not allow this place to be like slashdot with wild accusations and silly mutterings dominating the discussion. Clustering is important, and I at least don't understand it well enough, and I am certainly wondering how SCO makes money in these Open Source days. If there is no revenue there won't be professional development. If people aren't paid to do *nix stuff they'll go back to their day jobs....

Thanks. And I think this will close this particular discussion.


 

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Dear Jerry, Sorry for the delirious tirade, but it was getting late in the day. The problem was not MS's dubious navigation system, but the fact that I couldn't SEE ANY MS web pages, only IE3 error messages, saying it couldn't find such and such a page, or that it didn't exist, or denying me access to the listing of the home directory (www.microsoft.com/) without giving me a default page, only an error message.

I WAS able to download and save to disk the IE5setup.exe from another Win98 computer, and launching that from NT4 worked just fine to update me to a minimal browser only WinNT+IE5 without problems. No need to go through IE4 which had all the extras like Active Channels, etc. that can't be avoided. The problem is that I couldn't SEE any pages in MS.com, not that I couldn't FIND the right stuff. That's a whole other ballgame.

In the end I was home before 1 am with the server back up to normal after my 9pm "5 more minutes" thanks to MS.

Best wishes, and sorry for the excessive rage yesterday,

James Siddall jr jsiddall(at)tiscalinet.it

Nothing wrong with a bit of well directed rage. Software companies have to be yelled at to get their attention.  Most of them mean well, but they don't always DO well by people who are just trying to get by. Glad it all worked out.

Judge Penfield Jackson seems to think it was villainous of Microsoft to maneuver to dominate The Channel Bar...

 

 

 

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Hi! Here's an interesting home page about a travesty of historical distortion being perpetrated at the Smithsonian Institution!

http://www.concentric.net/~jwwagner/index.shtml

They even have on display a bust of Thomas Edison next to an AC generator clearly bearing patent numbers issued to Nikola Tesla, with no mention whatever of Tesla! What's the agenda here?

John, I thought you would particularly appreciate this.

-Steve

This leads to a fairly fascinating discussion and a controversy. I enjoyed going over it, and I can't disagree with what's said there.


Jerry,

I don't have anything useful to add to the discussion, but will offer that on a Windows 2000 based system it is possible, if your experiment goes colossally wrong, to end up with a system that has three functional hard drives, a ZIP drive, and a CD-ROM drive and no drive c:.

It was disconcerting at first, but I am coping with a system that boots off the g: drive. It all works just fine.

Regards

Ron Morse

Disconcerting indeed! Thanks.


Jerry, this is Chris Hare, who tried to help you with the dual CPU issue. Firstly, I've ran into that IE3/IE5 issue. There's a very simple way around it. Don't download IE5 from Microsoft. If I don't have a copy on CD, then I always go to ZDnet. You can download it directly from there.

 Secondly, as for CD-ROM burners... Try looking at www.goldenhawk.com. Their CDR-WIN program is only 590k (Though, if it fails to work the first time, you may have to download drivers, read the web page in detail before running) and copies by sectors. This is important, because some CDs give incorrect track information to prevent copying. The Sims, for example, (A lovely and quite intriguing game) despite being ~500 meg, reports as being to large to fit on a CD. Yours, Chris Hare.

Upcoming column discusses Nero (BURNING ROM) which is a good CD-R program also.


From: monty@sprintmail.com Subj: Clustering -- _In_Search_of_Clusters_

For an overview of clustering -- both Microsoftian and not -- try Greg Pfister's book, _In_Search_of_Clusters_. The current edition is the second (vintage 1998). The first (1995) edition is out of print, but it is both entertaining and educational to compare the two.

Pfister writes well. He neither glosses over the hard technical issues nor wallows in them. Rather, he explicates them clearly and humorously.

On contentious matters, Pfister does not hesitate to state and defend his own positions, but he tries very hard to reach what Herman Kahn used to call "second-order agreement" -- that is, to get each party to a disagreement able to state the _other_ party's positions in terms acceptable _to_the_other_party_.

See, for example,

 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0138997098/qid=962937327/sr=1-1/104-0 498526-2957558  

Thanks. I freely confess I am not much of a clustering expert...

 

 

 

 

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