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Monday, May 24, 1999

ISDN WAR STORY

My ISDN experience was relatively easy. I called the phone company, they hooked it up, and they left me with a sheet of paper with the ID numbers and other info. I purchased an internal Zoom ISDN modem (okay, okay, terminal adapter) because I only had one computer that I wanted on the net at the time. Plugged everything in, installed the software. I had a little trouble figuring out which flavor of ISDN network I was connected to. One call to the phone company and that was taken care of. A call to my ISP and I was up and running. Basically, not much worse than setting up a regular modem on a second phone line, though much more expensive. About $125/month between the phone company and the ISP.

A year later, I was looking to buy another computer and my roommate was going to buy a computer. Suddenly, I had three computers that needed internet access. I started looking into proxies and routers. In all, it appeared I was going to have to spend hundreds for the router, and full-time access for multiple IPs was going to be much more expensive than what I was paying for ISDN. And the logistics of using one of my computers as a proxy just wasn't going to work well.

@Home had just introduced cable "modem" to my area. $150 for installation, $50/month for three IPs, and they supply the router hardware. That's far less per month than I was paying for the ISDN line plus ISP dialup account. I recently looked at DSL. Their prices were proportional by speed to the high prices I had seen for ISDN. As long as @Home is diligent about adding nodes when the current one reaches its limits it'll remain the best bang for the buck by far.

But, the installation for @Home didn't go as well as it should. The guy that came to install the software seemed nice enough, but he was following a cookbook and I don't think really understood what he was doing. As he installed the first piece of software I asked him to install it on my drive E:, because C: was always getting full. He hesitated at that, but did it. Then I noticed with the other software that he blew through the wizards quickly so I couldn't remind him to install to drive E:. Oh, well, I could uninstall/reinstall if I needed to.

After he left I realized that he had written down my TCP/IP info but forgot to enter them into Network Neighborhood. Also, he had installed an older version of RealPlayer than what was already on my system. Basically, careless mistakes by someone who doesn't really understand why he's doing what he's doing. Fortunately, he didn't do anything that was difficult to fix. But I could see this guy breaking a newbie's system and neither of them being able to fix it.

After five months, I find @Home more than Good Enough. A few outages for a few hours at a time, but I don't think any more than I saw from my ISDN ISP. And the high speed access really changes how you use the net.

Drake Christensen

Drake Christensen [mighty@mightydrake.com]

Thanks. We have the ISDN line working for sound now. Not yet for data, but I'll get to that shortly. We'll see how it goes here…

===

Several mentions akin to "as daunting as ISDN…" makes me wonder what the problems are in the US version(s) of ISDN.

As noted earlier, I have just upgraded to ISDN (in Sweden). The steps to get this working were minimal:

1. Physical installation. Pretty much plug&;play. The Swedish telco (Telia) remote-switches the exisiting copper line from analog to digiital. The telco will even let you do the physical install of the ISDN-to-analog adapter yourself, as long as the line distance to the digital exchange is not too great. At longer distances, the telco wants one of their technicians to do on-site (automated) calibration with the ISDN unit on the line first. On the other hand, he can then immediately order the A to D switching, otherwise you would have to wait perhaps a day for the ISDN numbers to be activated.

2. Set-up. The unit is programmable using an ordinary touchtone telephone. Set up the assigned (new) phone numbers. "Duocom" is sold as a 2-phonenumber base package. Each logical line is via the adapter available as both digital and analog.

3. ISDN "modem". For ISDN internet, an extra ISDN to computer box is added, allowing computers to connect via an ordinary serial port connector.

4. ISDN software. This is simply the driver and set-up programs that on the system look like any other RAS modem. Installs like any other modem on the designated port. Usual AT dialling commands. Quite transparent to the user.

Given the rock-solid connect and data transfer of ISDN, I found that ISDN was easier to set-up and get running than my first attempts to get RAS dial-up working with POTS and modem.

For the newbie, it’s virtually automatic, because the telco’s bundled Internet account comes with a preconfigured install CD, which will install driver and Internet software, set everything up for RAS to the designated account and guide the user through direct activation of it via webpages on the ISP server.

What, exactly, are the problems that so disillusion the US ISDN customers? Is it simply the lack of interest from the telcos?

Oh well, I suppose you will be able to tell us in short order when you activate your own ISDN line.

/ Bo

--

"Bo Leuf" <bo@leuf.com>

Leuf fc3 Consultancy

 

http://www.leuf.com/

As you say, I'll know soon enough. Thanks!

The simplest would be a Netopia router, which has a built in Ethernet hub. Makes connection to a network very easy, particularly if your existing hubs have an uplink port which allows "daisy chaining". From the ISDN wall jack is RJ45, straight through usually unless the particular ISDN hardware requires a crossover cable (Ascend Pipelines, etc). The RJ11 port is for connection analog telephone equipment.

Check with Earthlink, since all ISPs do not support all CPE. I know they did Ascend, but am unsure re Netopia. ISDN is fairly ubiquitous now as a remote site radio broadcasting tool.

Robert Grenader [rgrenader@earthlink.net]

I am about to acquire an ISDN box from Ascend; when it comes we'll see how this goes. I look forward to all this with a great deal of anticipation, and perhaps just a little dread...

 

 

 

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Tuesday, May 25, 1999

Jerry,

A fresh idea. Have a competition to improve the usability of your website. I don’t care about the colors and graphics—less glitz, more content is a good motto for the web. But you admit in various places that this page needs to be better organized, etc. I also enjoyed the special report by Jessica Mulligan and discussion of it, but I couldn’t figure out how to submit my own comment to that discussion. To general email? Not clear.

Prize: recognition, i.e. it is a good resume booster

Categories: professional, amateur/student, even corporate (several Web portals have interesting features like group discussions, conferencing, etc.)

Let them reorganized your site (the content) and have one "button-link" on your current main page to their makeover locations. Voting could be by users and even Byte might want to feature this or the next idea.

Another idea—get someone with skills like Moshe Bar to put up to web servers—everything identical WRT hardware and connection speed, but one with NT and one with Linux. See if there is a discernable difference according to users. Then see how long they can stay live w/o going down. Then challenge advanced programmers (I hesitate to use the word "hackers") to try to take either or both down and explain how they did it. Then challenge security experts to protect them, &; etc. Now I would pay $20 per year just to see such a "computer jousting" exhibit site.

Jerry, your fine novels show that you like competition. Go for it! Remember to delegate, though. Don’t want the stop the ole thought-flow from your brain to ours! I’m willing to help out if I can be of service.

Brent, near Chicago

I have to think on this one, but it sounds interesting. A makeover is probably needed, and I haven't much time to learn how…

We'll let this balloon float free…

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Hi Jerry!

Just read your column on the web and its good to have you back!

An interesting one for you to peruse is the whole area of DMA Channels and IDE controllers. Most modern IDE Controllers can use DMA, but windows 9x and NT do not enable DMA Transfers by default. In Win 9x, you simply go to the systes\devices tab in the control pane, click on the disk or cdrom, and click on "Use DMA". On Windows NT, you need to get a thing called DMACHECK.exe from one of the micropsoft service packs (It unpacks the file while installing, so you can get it from the temp directory). This allows you to turn on DMA transfers for the primary or secondary IDE controller under NT.

As you can imagine, this has a huge effect on Disk performance, and it also drops CPU Usage dramatically!

The only problem is with older hardware, so on your testbed PII, it shouldn’t be a problem.

Again, thanks for all the years of great columns

Terry

tmacgoff@itp.ie

I guess I knew that and forgot; it's easy to do. I'll also have a look at the defaults in Win 98 2nd Edition and Windows 2000 and report on those. Thanks.

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From: Brian L. Pickering (bpick@sunny.ncmc.cc.mi.us)

Re: Sept. 1998 Column and Frontpage

 

I am just now catching up on your articles (it’s been one Hell of a year, and without Byte arriving on the doorstep every month, it’s just been easier to fall behind...), and noticed your comment about "a little inconvenience" in Frontpage.

Frontpage 98 wants to be connected to your web page. Oh, that’s just fine and dandy on my office machine, which finally has a LAN connection (only two years after I was hired and promised it!). On my home machine, though, I do a fair amount of HTML work as well. There, I prefer to only be connected when I’m actually using the net (there are these $per hour charges that rack up fairly fast as is!). I don’t see any reason that I should have to make a connection before I even try to fiddle with web pages that I may never upload (I’m involved in some projects on web education; only a fraction of my work actually gets onto the public web site).

As is, I dropped Frontpage and do a lot of my work in Netscape Composer. It’s incredibly basic, with no tools for assisting in the design of frames for example, but it gets my work done well. I set up frames and bitmaps from raw HTML code anyway (I guess, at heart, I’m just a DOS and UNIX boy- I don’t mind typing!). The results are fine for my work, albeit not quite so polished/fancy many commercial sites.

Anyway, that’s my two cents’ worth. If Frontpage didn’t have that "little inconvenience", I would give it more attention. As is, I have enough inconvenience in my life that I don’t actively seek more. :-)

--

Brian L. Pickering

Professor of Physical Sciences, Microsoft Certified Professional

North Central Michigan College

email: bpick@sunny.ncmc.cc.mi.us

web: http://www.ncmc.cc.mi.us/physics/

Atcually there is a way around all that. It's how you install it and what you tell it to install. If you set up a folder with some web stuff in it and feed that to Front Page when you Open a new web, it doesn't insist on looking outside your machine until you PUBLISH. I am getting used to Front Page's quirks. We have not been able to get Front Page 2000 working yet, but it's early days and of course it's not out. So I guess I will stick with Front Page since it seems to get the job done for me…

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IMPORTANT MESSAGE regarding REGEDIT /c

Hi Jerry,

please publish this to the registry/REGEDIT thread:

I have Win95 OSR2 with several bug/security fixes applied, and recently upgraded from IE4.01sp1 to IE5.

Today I backed up my registry using ERU, then exported my registry, went to DOS and did the REGEDIT /C trick. My registry shrunk from 7.2MB to about 5MB.

Back in the Win95 GUI, everything seemed just fine.

I backed up the registry using ERU again, then I decided to remove a couple of old backups.

After a while I decided to check my email and launched OE5.

Within a few seconds I nearly died of a heart attack!

OE popped up as if it had newly installed!!!!!

No messages, no inbox filter rules, no mail accounts, no Digital IDs!!!

I found out that stupid me accidentally selected the backup I did right before the REGEDIT trick instead of the second last version—for heavens sake, this was only 6 days old.

I restored that. Now I have the old registry size, but at least all important settings are back again.

I wonder what EXACTLY the REGEDIT /C trick is supposed to clean up - the experiment has proven that it cleans up things it should better leave in place.

Kind regards,

Peter Heberer

peterheberer@csi.com

Thanks. I haven't tried the regedit /c thing with Outlook Express; indeed I don't USE Outlook Express although I do use Outlook 98. Thanks for the warning.

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Subject: Fix-It Utilities under NT 4

Jerry,

 

I’m running Fix-It under NT 4 SP4 with nary a problem. I’m also running IE 5. The only problem I encounter with the latter is that it occasionally "forgets" the pages I’ve just visited. Closing and re-opening IE fixes that.

 Bruce Gregory

Bruce Gregory [bgregory@cfa.harvard.edu]

Thanks. I haven't had any problems with it, but I find I don't need it with 98 second edition or Windows 2000. At least not so far. Mijenix is pretty carefully written software, and the principals are conscientious people.

 

 

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Wednesday May 26, 1999

Dr. Pournelle:

Pete Abrams, the artist/author of Sluggy Freelance, has been running a great Buffy spoof over the past couple of weeks.

http://www.sluggy.com/

 

I do not know if it is your kind of humor but as a Buffy fan you might enjoy it.

- Rob Campbell

Thanks. I haven't looked at that yet, and may not. I'm not as big a spoof fan as most. I like Buffy, but it does take some willing suspension of disbelief…

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Dear Dr. Pournelle,

I’m sure someone’s told you by now (or you’ve remembered on your own), but you can get the file listing in any order by adding a switch to the DOS Dir command.

DIR /O:N > 111.txt should accomplish what you want. Dir /? if you want to see some other options.

Claud Addicott

Jerry,

quick solution to the dir ordering problem:

1) Dir to text file (you already did that)

2) open text file 111.txt in word

3) cut headers and footers (and any extraneous lines you see)

4) alt+left-click drag the VERTICAL COLUMN selection until you get to the column of long WIN'98 names (last column on the left) cutting out DOS-names (with ~ inserted), datestamps, etc.

5) Select table>sort and it should put everything in order by paragraphs.

5B) if you need the other information, you can paste it at the end of the first line before the ordering process, and it should paste down line by line, but it isn't very pretty (columns don't align as well, and I don’t know how to do that part). To get the Names ordered, this is the quickest way I know, and it comes in handy for me often enough, even though I know there are some shareware utilities which I think can do much of the same.

Hope this helps.

Best wishes,

James Siddall jr

siddall@tin.it

===

 

 

Make a file called "dirlist.bat" containing this:

dir %1 /-p /o:gn > "c:\temp\Directory Listing"

Start /w notepad "c:\temp\Directory Listing"

 

The /o:gn sorts with directories first, then by name.

Go to Start => Settings => Folder Options, File Types tab.

Select the "folder" file type. Select "New". Hit the "Edit" button. Hit the "New" button. Put "Directory Listing" in the "Action" box and "(path)\dirlist.bat" in the "Application" box.

Now you can right-click on a folder in Explorer, select "Directory Listing", and get a listing dumped into notepad.

The above was more-or-less shamelessly taken from The Mother of all Windows 98 Books by Leonhard and Simon. Great book. Woody Leonhard is a Word / Office guru who writes a great newsletter on Office. He isn’t beholden to Microsquash and calls ‘em as he sees ‘em. He really blasts MS when they deserve it (and praises them when that’s appropriate, too). Subscribe to his Office newsletter at http:\\www.wopr.com . I think you’d like his nutsy-boltsy approach to Word / Windows.

Keep up the good work.

Thanks,

Jim Riticher

jritiche@bellsouth.net

 =====

Jerry, try

dir /on/b >111.txt

/o = sort order, n=sort by name, and /b = bare listing without headers.

 

Mike Strube

Sprint Paranet

Paranet Phone: (918) 664-2791

Cell Phone: (918) 269-8737

Williams Phone: (918) 573-5938

Internet: mmstrube@sprintparanet.com or michael.strube@wilcom.com

 

DIR /ON /B > mylist.txt

the /b is "bare" and produces a directory listing with no sizes or dates, just the names.

The /ON is Order by Name

That should do it for you.

Rick

 

Dr. Pournelle

I moved this to your "more urgent" address since you appeared to want this information quickly. I have already sent it to ‘jerryp’.

I know that this will always work with 4DOS (and 4OS2) but I believe that COMMAND.COM also supports the /o:n switch which will list the files sorted by name. I just checked an old DOS 5 manual and /o:n will sort ascending, /o:-n will sort descending. Just redirect the output to a file and you should be set. 4DOS gives you far more options if it is available. I would never have a system without it.

I have verified that this does work with COMMAND.COM under Windows 95. After all Win95 and Win98 are both just Windows for Workgroups on very strong steroids.

 

Rolf Grunsky

--

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rgrunsk@ibm.net Remember, what you see coming

at you is coming from you.

"Jungle" Jack Flanders

 

First off, if you didn’t already know, most DOS commands, including dir, have built in help if given the "/?" option. Using that, I was able to find a way to sort with "dir". Use the /O switch, followed by various other letters indicating the sort order. The fields to sort by and their associated letters are:

N By name (alphabetic)

S By size (smallest first)

E By extension (alphabetic)

D By date &; time (earliest first)

G Group directories first

A By Last Access Date (earliest first)

  • Prefix to reverse order.

So, to do a directory listing placing subdirectories at the end of the list, then sorting by file extension, then by filename, you would do:

dir /o:-gen

or, broken down

dir - Directory listing command

/o - sort

: - optional separator for readibility

  • g - sory by directory, but place last, not first

e - keeping directories last, now sort by file extension

n - keeping extensions together and directories last, now sort by name

Notice the cumultive effect of the sortorder. Later elements in the order only effect directory entries where earlier elements make no distinction.

  • Jared in Redmond, WA

Jerry,

I’ve had to do this often enough that I figured out a way to do it, repeatably and simply. My solution works from the right-click context "send-to" menu.

First, create a folder: c:\program files\utilities In that folder create a .bat file named dirlist.bat.

The .bat looks like this:

---

dir /ON /L > c:\windows\desktop\dir.lis "%1"

exit

---

That’s "%one" at the end. The result is to put the directory listing, sorted by filename, in a file named "dir.lis" on your desktop. If you want to change the sort attributes, you can get the command arguments for ‘dir’ by going to a dos window and doing a ‘dir /?’.

Then create a shortcut to that bat file (right click on it and drag a copy down the window. When you release the right click, tell it you want a shortcut.

Copy that shortcut to c:\windows\SendTo.

Now, if you right click on any folder icon in a window and select sendto, you should see ‘dirlist’ appear in the sendto list. Select that and it should create a file on the desktop named ‘dir.lis’  which has the directory listing of the folder you selected, sorted by filename.

Takes a few minutes to set it all up, but if it’s something you need to do periodically, this makes it slick.

John

 coredump@enteract.com

www.enteract.com/~coredump

You have reached the end of the Information Superhighway

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Re: Sorted Directory Listing

Jerry,

This is a setup that I use sometimes. It is neither original nor new, but I have not seen it in your wednesday current mail. Please ignore it if it doesn’t make any sense for you.

If W98 behaves in the same way as W95, the following might work:

1. Start the Windows Explorer (not IE).

2. In the View menu, select "Options".

3. Select the "File Types" tab.

4. Select the "Folder" type; press "Edit".

5. Create a New entry; name this (for instance) "Directory Listing".

6. In the "Application" field type the command line: command.com /c dir %1 /b /o:n /a:-d > c:\windows\desktop\direct.txt

7. OK and close the lot.

 

To use, right-click on the file icon of which you want to make the directory listing, and select "Directory Listing". Your directory listing will be written to the Windows desktop, in file "direct.txt", long file names sorted by name, no subdirectories.

Add as many Actions as you like. Adapt the command line to your liking.

To view the MS-DOS DIR command options, open a command window (MS-DOS prompt) and type: "DIR /?|More". Note the use of the DIRCMD environment variable.

Use ">" to overwrite the direct.txt file on every new listing; ">>" to concatenate several listings in one file.

 

Stan.

cvermae@xs4all.nl

 

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A selection based mostly on random factors, of some of the responses. Thanks to the dozens who replied. At least we now know precisely how this is done…

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I use Frontpage extensively and I have learned (the hard way, mostly) about most of its quirks. Like most MS products, it tries to be overly-helpful at times. This is what I have discovered about its picture preferences...

  • You can easily import files as you need them into Frontpage. I like to use Firehand Ember (http://www.firehand.com/Ember/index.html) for keeping track of my images (I like its quick and dynamic thumbnails feature that doesn’t leave my drives full of temporary files). When I find a picture that I need, I just drag and drop it onto the Frontpage Editor. This usually just works like magic. ***NOTE*** After you’ve got the image into Frontpage, make sure to right-click on it and hit properties... Frontpage likes to change things into jpegs on a whim. Make sure that the picture is going to be saved in the format that you intend it. These pictures will get auto-saved when you next save the document. You can even choose the names and locations of the files. Generally, FP will do the right thing.
  • I don’t really like the above method as I like more control over things. My preferred method is to browse the images with Firehand and drop the ones that I want into a "pictures" folder in the Frontpage Explorer. I can then find them in Frontpage the "usual way" in Frontpage Editor.

 

Anyway, this way seems to work well enough for me... My site (done entirely with FP) is at www.inwards.com, and gives some idea of what you can do with the above method.

Good luck.

Hard Code [inwards@netrover.com]

Thanks. I'll look up Firehand Ember. My problem was that FP Editor didn't seem to see files that were just dropped in as opposed to imported, but I was probably doing it wrong. Thanks again.

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I have just read your latest column in Byte and although I do not own a DVD I think that the 5X specification is indicative of DVD disks and not CDs. If you have the Encore 5X with Dxr2 board it states the reading speed for DVD media as 5X the original DVD reading speed (it does not state this particular speed on their website) and 32X speed reading CD media.

Digging the Encore’s 6X with Dxr3 board we find a little more information, even if contradicting some of the above. It states that this drive can read at 6X the original DVD spec, or 8.1 MB/s (this would mean the 5X can read 6.75 MB/s and 1X DVD would mean 1.35 MB/s). The funny thing here is that this drive can only read CD’s at 24X (3,600 KB/s), much slower than the 5X (32X)!!!!!!!

In any case, either one should be fast enough to serve as the sole CD in any PC, even for 4X CD recording. Why don’t you try it and inform us of the results?

Truly yours

Francisco Garcia Maceda

maceda@pobox.com

Have done, actually; a single DVD drive can in fact be adequate for all purposes, no CDROM needed. However, on BIG COPY JOBS we have had some of them OVERHEAT, strangely enough; so much so that I contemplate putting a small chip fan on the drive. In a box with lots of air flow around the drives this won't be a problem, but I actually had a DVD sieze up from heat (and report drive not ready) while copying all the CAB files from Windows 98 to hard disk. A bit more air flow corrected the problem.

But yes, a DVD is plenty fast enough, and thanks.

 

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Hi Jerry

I read your column on the fun you had installing a CD writer. I too am having a lot of "fun" installing a CD rewriter. I went for a Plextor SCSI rewriter as a cheap and fast alternative to tape drives. The basic installation of SCSI drivers and the Plextor management software all seemed to go easily enough, as did the software Nero Burning ROM.

The only trouble is having tried backing up to rewritable discs and got nowhere, I have tried duplicating CDs both on the fly and by creating an image. The software seems to go through the motions for between 20 and 30 mins then sometimes hangs, sometimes fails and sometimes even says it’s burned the CD successfully. But when you attempt to look at the CD it’s completely empty!

Ever heard of that?

Andrew Peake

Andrew Peake [Andrew.Peake@unilever.com]

 

"Paranoia is merely a state of heightened awareness. Most people are persecuted beyond their wildest delusions." Claude Steiner

We are at the moment fighting with a SONY CRX100/E CD-RW (an internal IDE drive) and Windows 2000. The Sony works fine as a CD. The software that comes with it is not, in my judgment, anything like as good as the Adaptec EZ CD Creator software, and with the software that comes with the Sony you can not use the CD/RW as just another drive: you have to create and erase the R/W within the CD creation software. I am about to download the latest Adaptec DIRECT CD and install that with EX CD Creator, and I presume both will work with Windows 2000; they certainly work with earlier NT.

I like the drive just fine, and if it will work with Direct CD and EZ CD Creator in Windows 2000 I will be very happy to recommend it.

==

 

And now for something different…

 

Jerry - I’m not sure if you’ve seen this, but I thought you might appreciate the humor.

Roger Weeks

=-=-=-

The new Master Card Commercial . . .

Lockheed F-16 Fighting Falcon Jet - $25 million

Lockheed F-117 Nighthawk Stealth Fighter - $45 million

Boeing B-52 Stratofortress - $74 million

Brand new B-2 Stealth Bomber - $2.1 billion

A decent map of downtown Belgrade—Priceless.

There are some things that money can’t buy ... Unfortunately good intelligence isn’t one of them. (unless you’re at Los Alamos)

For the rest, there’s MasterCard, the official card of the 19 member NATO alliance and those who believe that sometimes you just need to blow up something in order to restore world peace.

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And now for some final words on DIR / ON and filenames:

 

Dr. Pournelle,

Sorry to beat the horse further. I also practice the DIR /ON > FILENAME command routinely. Usually that’s good enough. I have found something that causes some consternation, though. The ‘name’ DIR sorts when using the /ON switch (at least while inside Win95B—I don’t have Win98 conveniently available) is the DOS name (the 8-character part of the 8.3 form, often with a ~ in it) NOT the long-name. This makes for some counterintuitive sorting when you make long name files that are the same in their 1st 6 chars, but different thereafter. It’s even more fun when your long name contains any ‘8.3-illegal’ characters because they’re either squeezed out of the DOS name or ‘_’-replaced before suffixing the name with ~digit(s) and trimming-to-8-characters algorithm kicks in: (in the DOS names, spaces are squeezed and any occurrences of ;=],[ or + are ‘_’-replaced, in a Novell networking environment, it’s different again because more of these 8.3-illegal characters are squeezed—I believe that Novell uses OS2 long-name-to-8.3 conversion rules, which don’t allow the ‘~’ either—in any case, none of the filename systems, including Windows, allow any occurrences of \:/*?">| or < ). It really gets fun when you have more than 9 such files, because the ~ eats the 6th filename char instead of the 7th: e.g., FILENA~1.XXX thru FILENA~9.XXX and FILEN~10.XXX thru FILEN~99.XXX. Again, it’s the DOS name part that sorts.

This is also true when using the /B[bare] switch: DIR /B/ON >

FILENAME

And DOS [legacy] stuff is more intuitive?? --NOT—

(Of course, all this seems to exist to ensure backwards compatibility rather than [MY definition of] reasonableness).

My only real solutions to sorting lots of filenames that fit these weird rules is to haul the DIR outputs (named as .TXT files) into Excel (as fixed-length field columns) and let it sort on the real long-filename strings.

Regards and best of luck with any other fire-breathing dragons (wherever they are ;-)

Steve Bankey

bankey@eirnet.com

 

PS. Now that I think about it, long-name is really a misnomer. I should be calling these names Windows filenames, because including ANY of the DOS-illegal characters in a filename, even one shorter that 8-charactes, results in the creation of a directory entry whose 8-character part gets the ~digit(s) suffix.

Now that's interesting. In our case it didn't matter: DOS didn't sort it at all. Too many objects. But WORD seems to have sorted it the way you would hope it did, so all is well; the proper method seems to be DOS /B > filename.txt; read filename.txt into WORD; Table:sort:sort by paragraphs, and Voila! Thanks for the warnings.

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From: Thomas Crook [tjcrook@email.com]

Subject: Ted Nelson and user interfaces

 

Dear Jerry,

I recall some discussion of user interfaces on your site a few weeks ago. Those who found that discussion interesting might be interested in Ted Nelson’s home page. I was reminded of Ted today while reading an article on computer pioneers, so I searched to see if he had a home page. He does, and he has some opinions on user interfaces (and many other things) there:

http://www.sfc.keio.ac.jp/~ted/

 

His list of one-liners is interesting. He has quite a few about Mac, MS Windows and X, none of them very complementary:

http://www.sfc.keio.ac.jp/~ted/TN/WRITINGS/TCOMPARADIGM/tedCompOneLiners.html

Among other things he coined the words hypertext and hypermedia, although as he says, the current implementations of those ideas (e.g., the World Wide Web) have many problems.

 

I believe I recall reading an article on Ted many years ago in Byte, but I haven’t seen much on him in the press or various "computer histories" since. It would be nice if people were more aware his contributions. For example, I suspect more people today have heard of Richard Stallman than Ted Nelson, even though Ted’s ideas as implemented in the World Wide Web may have a wider impact. (Interestingly, Tim Berners-Lee had not heard of Ted when he invented the web, but he was influenced by people who were influenced by Ted.)

Regards,

Thomas Crook,

PhD Candidate, University Lecturer and Linux/NT/Citrix Network Consultant

I have known Ted for a long time. He is enormously stimulating to be around. He has one problem: he has no reality filter, so he can propose with equal weight a scheme using some kind of medallions for use in facilitating anonymous unprotected but "safe" sex, and a new computer interface (and at one Hacker's meeting did propose both in two different sessions; for the life of me I can't tell you which he considered the more important).

The result is that you learn a lot from being around Ted, but when it comes to implementing some of his ideas, it gets just a bit more difficult. I have more than once proposed him for industrial fellowships to computer firms, on the grounds that simply having him around and giving a monthly symposium for a company's creative people would more than pay for itself. I have no idea of whether anything came of such nominations.

Ted is in some ways his own worst enemy: one of his major books, for instance, contained several Chapters 2 and he made a big point of your being able to read the book in almost any order. That may be stimulating, but it wasn't for me; despite the chaos that generally reigns about me, I do prefer that an author think through an idea and present it to me in the proper order rather than making me decide for myself how to organize his thoughts for him.

All this seems a great deal more critical and harder on Ted Nelson than I intend; let me close by repeating, I have more than once nominated him for fellowships.

 

 

 

 

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Subject: C. S. Lewis

When I was reading through the section of your webpage about some of your favorite books I noticed you were a fan of the works of that great Christian author C. S. Lewis. I wonder if you know about a wonderful resource of information and memorabilia about Lewis, among other Christian authors, that is located in the Chicago suburbs.

"The Marion E. Wade Center of Wheaton College (Illinois) houses a major research collection of the books and papers of seven British authors: Owen Barfield, G.K. Chesterton, C.S. Lewis, George MacDonald, Dorothy L. Sayers, J.R.R. Tolkien, and Charles Williams. These writers are well-known for their impact on contemporary literature and Christian thought. Together they produced over four hundred books including novels, drama, poetry, fantasy, books for children, and Christian treatises. Overall, the Wade Center has more than 11,000 volumes including first editions and critical works. Other holdings on the seven authors include letters, manuscripts, audio and video tapes, artwork, dissertations, periodicals, photographs, and related materials. … The Wade Center is open to the public; there is no charge to browse or do research." More information on the center can be found on their webpage at http://www.wheaton.edu/learnres/wade/

 

Due to some major new donations to the Wade Center they are currently having a brand new building designed for them. This will allow them to grow beyond the small section of the college library they are currently shoe horned into. Hopefully you will have time to visit the center the next time you are in the Chicago area.

Thomas Price

tmprice@interaccess.com

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This got tucked away and forgotten. I haven't tried it, because MemTurbo has done the job:

Subject: Shrinking Memory

Jerry,

Forgive me if you have already found the answer to the above.

Have you tried FREEMEMPRO, http://www.meikel.com/freemem/fmempro.htm ? This works for me on w95!!!!

D.Tanner

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Dear Jerry,

In the Thursday 5-27-1999 current mail, Andrew Peake told of an odd problem while writing disks. My experience is that the Plextor Manager software that comes with the drive does not work. I have had a NT W/S machine become unbootable immediately after loading that software. I probably did something wrong—and I did not try again. I have, however, found that there is no need for their manager package. They recently began distributing a program named CDRESQ (which appears to be a Plextor drive limited and renamed version of Symantec’s Ghost) which can create an image of the hard drive and works very well. And Adaptec’s Easy CD Creator Deluxe works very well with the Plextor CD-R drives I have &; have installed for customers.

John

John G. Ruff.

Ruff19@SkyPoint.com

Actually, Adaptec DIRECT CD and EASY CD CREATOR DELUXE seem to work with everything including my new Sony IDE CD-RW drive. This will be in the upcoming column. No matter what software comes with the system, I recommend Adaptec CD Creator (and Direct CD if you want R/W capability). If anyone knows of systems they don't work with please tell me. Note we are talking about the latest Direct CD. I had some real problems with early versions, but then everyone had real problems with early CD-RW.

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I don't know if this got in last week or not. It's easier to post it again if it did: it's in my "to be posted" list but I thought I did it. Memory is the third thing to go...

Jerry,

Anyway, this is to thank you for recommending MemTurbo. It does all you say. It has not only kept me from locking up, a frequent occurance due to multiple open windows, etc., but it also helped identify a major trouble maker on my system.

I noticed that MemTurbo, kept kicking itself off (I had it set to run at low mem warning). I pulled it up and could see memory disappear, it would run, memory would restore to 40MB free, then fall to 5MB, restore, fall, etc.

I used the emperical method to determine the culprit, by closing applications one after another until I found the perpetrator. A pull from an outside database via a somewhat jury-rigged spreadsheet interface I got from a friend. I still will need to run it on occasion, but now I know to go to barebones application-wise when I do.

Anyway, thanks for the tip.

Neil Massie

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