{"id":9809,"date":"2012-09-25T16:08:04","date_gmt":"2012-09-25T23:08:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/?p=9809"},"modified":"2012-09-25T17:00:47","modified_gmt":"2012-09-26T00:00:47","slug":"hey-pilot-open-the-doggone-window","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/hey-pilot-open-the-doggone-window\/","title":{"rendered":"Hey Pilot, open the doggone window!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>View 743 Tuesday, September 25, 2012<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/clip_image00268.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"background-image: none; border-bottom: 0px; border-left: 0px; margin: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; display: inline; border-top: 0px; border-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px\" title=\"clip_image002\" border=\"0\" alt=\"clip_image002\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/clip_image002_thumb17.gif\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The Internet is abuzz with stories of how stupid Romney must be because he said something about aircraft ventilation. The occasion was a heavy smoke incident on a flight that his wife took. The Huffington Post went insane with laughter about <a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/2012\/09\/24\/mitt-romney-airplane-windows_n_1910930.html?utm_hp_ref=travel\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">how Romney was so stupid he wondered why you can\u2019t just open the windows on a jet plane<\/a>. Clearly he is not qualified to be President, and in fact must be so incompetent as to need a keeper. Of course the first assumption is that the Huffington Post and other media must be joking; but apparently they were not. <\/p>\n<p>Next comes <a href=\"http:\/\/www.chron.com\/communityblogs\/atmosphere\/article\/Romney-s-joke-about-airplane-windows-goes-viral-3893018.php\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">the \u2018news\u2019 that Romney was joking<\/a>. Probably graveyard humor on hearing that his wife had been in danger but was now safe. Whether or not Romney was joking, which should have been obvious \u2013 it\u2019s not as if he has never been aboard a jet airplane. He may even have owned one \u2013 it\u2019s not quite so trivial a question as you might at first think. As it happens I know something about this from a long time ago.<\/p>\n<p>This was once a serious topic for discussion and study. As it happens I was in the Human Factors and Reliability Group at Boeing when the 707 went commercial. Boeing\u2019s marketing methods for the 707 were simple: the Company brought the Chief Pilots of most of the major airlines to Seattle as guests to watch the Gold Cup 90-mile unlimited hydroplane boat races from the Boeing barge on Lake Washington. The Gold cup is run in heats, with a major break between heats for mechanical overhaul, and during one of the recesses, without prior announcement, the watching crowd (and the TV audience of course) was told to Look Up! Here comes the new Boeing 707 Stratocruiser! At which point Chief Test Pilot Tex Johnston brought the Dash 90 \u2013 the flying prototype of the 707 \u2013 down the length of Lake Washington, and at about 700 feet <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=2Bvhov0nxPQ\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\">he barrel rolls just in front of the Boeing barge<\/a>. The result was that within a week every senior pilot in America was in his President\u2019s office panting \u201cWe gotta have one!\u201d and Boeing had about a hundred orders within a month.<\/p>\n<p>Boeing began building and selling the 707. Howard Hughes came up to Boeing Field in his private Constellation, and camped out at the end of the runway (with about 17 young lady starlets and stewardesses) while negotiating the design and purchase of a fleet of them. The commercial jet age began.<\/p>\n<p>But within a month of the first commercial passenger jet flight \u2013 people paid a premium price for a jet ticket, since it cut hours off cross country flight times \u2013 they had a cabin pressure loss above 40,000 feet. The passenger oxygen masks deployed, but people didn\u2019t know how to use them. The pilots did an emergency dive to 7500 feet, then a more gradual descent, so that there was enough oxygen content and cabin pressure for breathing without oxygen masks, but the FAA gave Boeing notice that within 30 days we had to give sufficient evidence that the passenger oxygen system was safe or the 707 fleet would be grounded. Dr. Don Stuhring, the Boeing Central Medical flight surgeon, and I as a human factors engineer were given the task: come up with evidence acceptable to the aviation medicine and human factors professional community, and do it fast.<\/p>\n<p>We spent the next three weeks at the University of Washington altitude chamber. Of course Boeing had a good altitude chamber \u2013 in fact a better one than the UW \u2013 but we wanted the UW people involved in the experiments including data collection so there would be no question of the accuracy of the data. We took several rides to 40,000 feet a day \u2013 actually on most I took them, with Dr. Stuhring outside to preside if there was medical need, which there never was \u2013 and flew flight profiles of emergency cabin pressure losses, rapid descent to 10,000 feet and gradual descent to 5,000, with the subjects using the emergency oxygen system while we monitored blood oxygen content, heart rate, and other data. In those days collecting physiological data from non-restrained subjects was very difficult, and I had to use a bank of analog computers to filter out electronic noise. The subjects were paid volunteers from the UW student body, faculty, and staff, and included young and old, sick and healthy. It was a heck of a month, but we got the data, it was accepted by the relevant boards, and the 707 wasn\u2019t grounded. <\/p>\n<p>We (Don Stuhring and I) also participated in discussions about ventilation. What would happen if there were smoke incidents? Obviously you can\u2019t open the cabin to external ventilation if you\u2019re much above 10,000 feet, but rapid descent will fix that. Deployment of the passenger oxygen system will buy you some time, but if the smoke isn\u2019t dissipated you got problems. There was serious discussion of building in external windows operable by the cabin crew. The alternative was a pilot controlled ventilation system, which raises the question of its reliability. We had considerable confidence in the competence of the flight attendants \u2013 generally known as stewardesses \u2013 despite the public&#160; \u2018coffee, tea, or milk?\u2019 jokes about \u2018stews\u2019; and if we started looking into things that might fill the cabin with smoke most of those might also cripple a pilot compartment controlled ventilation system. I remember saying something to the effect that I had a lot more confidence that Miss Sparling here can open the window than I have in the hydraulics working after parts of it turn into blue smoke.<\/p>\n<p>We\u2019ve come a long way from those days in the 1950\u2019s, but clearly there\u2019s still the possibility of a smoke incident and ventilation problem. And some of us may remember that prior to jet aircraft there were manually operable windows on passenger airline craft. Didn\u2019t George Kennedy open one of them and fire a flare in one of the sequels to \u201cAirport\u201d? <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/clip_image002125.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"background-image: none; border-bottom: 0px; border-left: 0px; margin: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; display: inline; border-top: 0px; border-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px\" title=\"clip_image002[1]\" border=\"0\" alt=\"clip_image002[1]\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/clip_image0021_thumb17.gif\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>For those who don\u2019t know: without a very efficient oxygen mask delivering pure oxygen, you won\u2019t perform well, or even last long, above 30,000 feet. We learned a lot about that in World War II. With pure oxygen at positive pressure you can manage at about 43,000 feet (this is from memory, but it\u2019s in the right range) but you\u2019re already in need of a pressure suit.<\/p>\n<p>Of course if you\u2019re inhaling smoke at high altitudes you\u2019re really in trouble. Efficient ventilation of aircraft at high altitudes has been the subject of considerable study, particularly for military aircraft \u2013 how do you get a Flying Fortress home if there\u2019s smoke in the cabin and AA guns below? But I wouldn\u2019t expect the Huffington Post columnists or editors to know much about that. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/2012\/09\/24\/mitt-romney-airplane-windows_n_1910930.html?utm_hp_ref=travel\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Their \u201cupdate\u201d on the incident<\/a> still doesn\u2019t show much understanding, but that\u2019s to be expected too. Which is fine; my point is that it\u2019s a more complex subject than they think, and Mr. Romney is clearly aware of that. I doubt he knows as much about it as I do, but that\u2019s another story. At one time Stuhring and I knew more about it than perhaps anyone did, not because I was so smart, but because I had reason to think about it. Mr. Romney has a tendency to answer questions asked of him, and to have confidence that if what he says is wrong, someone will correct him. That was true of Newt Gingrich, too, and it\u2019s no bad trait for a President since it shows that he expects to have smart advisors who will say what they think.<\/p>\n<p>The incident tells a lot about many people; perhaps more about the press than about Mr. Romney.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/clip_image0038.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"background-image: none; border-bottom: 0px; border-left: 0px; margin: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; display: inline; border-top: 0px; border-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px\" title=\"clip_image003\" border=\"0\" alt=\"clip_image003\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/clip_image003_thumb8.gif\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ll do a mail bag, but we have a couple of interesting references to things you may not have seen.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>An interesting comment on today<\/p>\n<p>&lt;<a href=\"http:\/\/tvsac.net\/BarryMeek\/BM0705.html\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/tvsac.net\/BarryMeek\/BM0705.html<\/a>&gt;<\/p>\n<p>The author is a retired ambulance paramedic, former broadcaster, mountain bike tour guide and commercial pilot.<\/p>\n<p>Mike<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>and<\/p>\n<p>&#160;<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>50 years of the Jetsons.<\/p>\n<p>&lt;<a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.smithsonianmag.com\/paleofuture\/2012\/09\/50-years-of-the-jetsons-why-the-show-still-matters\/\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/blogs.smithsonianmag.com\/paleofuture\/2012\/09\/50-years-of-the-jetsons-why-the-show-still-matters\/<\/a>&gt;<\/p>\n<p>&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>Roland Dobbins <\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>I recall the first season of the Jetsons, and of course the endless replays. It really did affect our expectations of the future.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/clip_image00317.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"background-image: none; border-bottom: 0px; border-left: 0px; margin: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; display: inline; border-top: 0px; border-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px\" title=\"clip_image003[1]\" border=\"0\" alt=\"clip_image003[1]\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/clip_image0031_thumb6.gif\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/clip_image00324.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"background-image: none; border-bottom: 0px; border-left: 0px; margin: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; display: inline; border-top: 0px; border-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px\" title=\"clip_image003[2]\" border=\"0\" alt=\"clip_image003[2]\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/clip_image0032_thumb3.gif\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/clip_image00333.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"background-image: none; border-bottom: 0px; border-left: 0px; margin: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; display: inline; border-top: 0px; border-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px\" title=\"clip_image003[3]\" border=\"0\" alt=\"clip_image003[3]\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/clip_image0033_thumb2.gif\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/clip_image00342.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"background-image: none; border-bottom: 0px; border-left: 0px; margin: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; display: inline; border-top: 0px; border-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px\" title=\"clip_image003[4]\" border=\"0\" alt=\"clip_image003[4]\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/clip_image0034_thumb1.gif\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/clip_image0057.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"background-image: none; border-bottom: 0px; border-left: 0px; margin: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; display: inline; border-top: 0px; border-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px\" title=\"clip_image005\" border=\"0\" alt=\"clip_image005\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/clip_image005_thumb7.jpg\" width=\"244\" height=\"6\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/clip_image00351.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"background-image: none; border-bottom: 0px; border-left: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; display: inline; border-top: 0px; border-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px\" title=\"clip_image003[5]\" border=\"0\" alt=\"clip_image003[5]\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/clip_image0035_thumb.gif\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>View 743 Tuesday, September 25, 2012 The Internet is abuzz with stories of how stupid Romney must be because he said something about aircraft ventilation. The occasion was a heavy smoke incident on a flight that his wife took. The Huffington Post went insane with laughter about how Romney was \u2026 <a class=\"continue-reading-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/hey-pilot-open-the-doggone-window\/\"> Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr; <\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-9809","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-view"],"post_mailing_queue_ids":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9809","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=9809"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9809\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=9809"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=9809"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=9809"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}