{"id":514,"date":"2011-07-09T18:00:45","date_gmt":"2011-07-10T01:00:45","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/?p=514"},"modified":"2011-07-09T18:00:45","modified_gmt":"2011-07-10T01:00:45","slug":"fallen-angels-neptunes-birthday-20110709-1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/fallen-angels-neptunes-birthday-20110709-1\/","title":{"rendered":"Fallen Angels, Neptune&rsquo;s Birthday 20110709-1"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Mail 682 Saturday July 9, 2011<\/p>\n<p>\u00b7 <a href=\"#angels\">Fallen Angels<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00b7 <a href=\"#Malaysia\">Trouble in Malaysia<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00b7 <a href=\"#gardens\">Bunny inspectors and victory gardens<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00b7 <a href=\"#Neptune\">Neptune\u2019s Birthday<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00b7<\/p>\n<p><a name=\"angels\"><\/a>Okay, I couldn&#8217;t resist<\/p>\n<p>Croat scientist warns ice age could start in five years<\/p>\n<p>&quot;The reality is that mankind needs to start preparing for the ice age. We are at the end of the global warming period. The ice age is to follow. The global warming period should have ended a few thousands of years ago, we should have already been in the ice age.&quot;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.croatiantimes.com\/news\/General_News\/2010-02-10\/8836\/Croat_scientist_warns_ice_age_could_start_in_five_years\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.croatiantimes.com\/news\/General_News\/2010-02-10\/8836\/Croat_scientist_warns_ice_age_could_start_in_five_years<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Fallen Angels might become a survivor&#8217;s manual!<\/p>\n<p>Mike Flynn<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>And of course a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Fallen-Angels-ebook\/dp\/B005BJTZ1U\/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;m=AG56TWVU5XWC2&amp;s=digital-text&amp;qid=1310257874&amp;sr=1-1\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">new Kindle edition i<\/a>s now available from Amazon.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><b><\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>= = = = = = =<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b><\/b><\/p>\n<p><a name=\"Malaysia\"><\/a>KL Goes Boom<\/p>\n<p>Just the other day, I asked some friends in Malaysia on their thoughts<\/p>\n<p>concerning the political climate. I said that Thailand was turning<\/p>\n<p>into a powder keg and I wanted to know what the situation was in<\/p>\n<p>Malaysia. The state-controlled media probably would not publicize any<\/p>\n<p>imminent problems &#8212; so I speculated.<\/p>\n<p>My friends all acted as if I were a paranoid American. One friend<\/p>\n<p>said, &quot;Man, Malaysia is the safest country in the world&quot;. He said<\/p>\n<p>that I know how it is there and I should come to KL (Kuala Lumpur)<\/p>\n<p>instead of BKK (Bangkok). I must confess, KL is one of the nicest<\/p>\n<p>playgrounds I&#8217;ve lived in. Yet, today 1,400 protesters were detained<\/p>\n<p>in KL as Malaysia exploded in a political crisis:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.reuters.com\/article\/2011\/07\/09\/us-malaysia-protest-idUSTRE7680B720110709\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.reuters.com\/article\/2011\/07\/09\/us-malaysia-protest-idUSTRE7680B720110709<\/a><\/p>\n<p>I am convinced this is part of a global wave of chaos that will<\/p>\n<p>destabilize much of the planet. I suspect this will not stop until it<\/p>\n<p>reaches Beijing and Moscow or the adversarial pieces lock into place<\/p>\n<p>and slow the wave or turn the tide.<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>Most Respectfully,<\/p>\n<p>Joshua Jordan, KSC<\/p>\n<p><b><\/b><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>We do live in interesting times. I know that there is unrest in the Arab Moslem world. I had not heard that it was rampant among the Malays and in Indonesia. Singapore seems stable enough. Interesting times.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>= = = = = = = = = = <\/p>\n<p><a name=\"gardens\"><\/a>The Victory Garden<\/p>\n<p><strong>There is a very great deal of mail on this subject<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>SUBJECT: Michigan Woman Faces 93 Days in Jail for Planting a Vegetable Garden<\/p>\n<p>Hi Jerry.<\/p>\n<p>This is right up there with the bunny-inspector lunacy:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.treehugger.com\/files\/2011\/07\/michigan_woman_faces_jail_planting_veggie_garden.php\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.treehugger.com\/files\/2011\/07\/michigan_woman_faces_jail_planting_veggie_garden.php<\/a><\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s not a bad-looking garden, either!<\/p>\n<p>Cheers,<\/p>\n<p>Mike Casey<\/p>\n<p>= = =<\/p>\n<p>Jerry,<\/p>\n<p>Another example of a govt agency or worker that we don\u2019t need.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.theagitator.com\/2011\/07\/07\/does-michelle-obama-know-about-this\/\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.theagitator.com\/2011\/07\/07\/does-michelle-obama-know-about-this\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Apparently because nobody else plants vegetables in their front yard, these people can\u2019t either. Fines and jail time for a victory garden, because vegetables aren\u2019t \u201csuitable\u201d (pronounced \u201ccommon\u201d) enough to plant in the front yard.<\/p>\n<p>Sean<\/p>\n<p>== ==<\/p>\n<p>Getting what we pay them for?<\/p>\n<p>Thought you might find this in the category of the rabbit inspectors. People who are being paid to have too much free time.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.aninchfrommurder.com\/blog\/archives\/2011\/07\/oak_park_michig.php\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.aninchfrommurder.com\/blog\/archives\/2011\/07\/oak_park_michig.php<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Bob<\/p>\n<p>Bob Gates<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>There is a lot more mail on this subject. Many have commented. Of course this is local, not Federal like the bunny licenses.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>= = = = = = = = = = = = =<\/p>\n<p>The last shuttle mission.<\/p>\n<p>I was angry, watching people cheer Atlantis&#8217;s final take-off-we ought to mourn. Or maybe it is ok to cheer for now and save our tears for her homecoming. Dunno.<\/p>\n<p>I just hope the people and companies now trying to find their way into space do so in a meaningful way. Maybe the current program must die so that something better can be raised up out of the ashes. Maybe this is the end of Heinlein&#8217;s false start and we will look back and realize that it was just a hiccup in history. Maybe it is a Good Thing that Nasa\/government get their little fingers out of this particular pie and let everyone play in this particular playground. Maybe we are about ready for barnstormers and fairground attractions to help make us ready for the real thing.<\/p>\n<p>I hope we don&#8217;t look back with regrets as Chinese or other interests surge ahead. I believe the West, and especially the U.S., will share access&#8211;even to our own detriment. I am not so sure about the East. High orbit and\/or the moon represent the highest ground there is. I would rather we controlled it.<\/p>\n<p>I believe we are very much able to make the step up and out. I just don&#8217;t know if we have the will to do so. I believe everyone&#8211;those who go and those who stay&#8211;will benefit from the industries that can be developed. Earthly pioneering did so for Europe at least, and I am Eurocentric enough to think that it has overall benefitted all peoples, even if unevenly.<\/p>\n<p>People died on the way across the great plains to Oregon. They were mourned by those who loved them, and the survivors moved on. It was the risk they chose to accept. We will lose more than the handful of astronauts who have so far died on the road to the stars. It is ok. The species will go on. At least if we let people accept the risk and not try to make it as safe as a kindergarten.<\/p>\n<p>Today I am more sad than excited.<\/p>\n<p>I hope, though, for an exciting future.<\/p>\n<p>R,<\/p>\n<p>Rose<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>I am not as concerned that it is the last Shuttle, because I have never been a big Shuttle fan for reasons I will get into in a longer essay; but I am appalled that this is the end of the Manned Space program. America will send robots to space, but not Americans. Of course others will go. They may not speak English. But they will go.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n<p>And perhaps America is not done yet. We can all hope for an exciting future. And help build it. We may again take a step farther out.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>= = = = = = = = = = =<\/p>\n<p>Strip mining the moon<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.globalresearch.ca\/index.php?context=va&amp;aid=25542\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.globalresearch.ca\/index.php?context=va&amp;aid=25542<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Charles Brumbelow<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>I can recall when the prospect of strip mining the Moon horrified \u201cenvironmentalists\u201d; possibly it still does. I\u2019d rather strip mine the Moon than strip mine Colorado.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>= = = = = = = = = =<\/p>\n<p>Quiet Sun<\/p>\n<p>Jerry<\/p>\n<p>Don&#8217;t know if you&#8217;ve seen this: <a href=\"http:\/\/ncwatch.typepad.com\/dalton_minimum_returns\/2011\/06\/quiet-sun-deadly-sun-the-resilient-earth-1.html\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/ncwatch.typepad.com\/dalton_minimum_returns\/2011\/06\/quiet-sun-deadly-sun-the-resilient-earth-1.html<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Somehow it makes me think of, oh, I dunno. Fallen Angels?<\/p>\n<p>MikeF<\/p>\n<p>= = = = = = = = = =<\/p>\n<p>Armed Guards at Fast Food<\/p>\n<p>When I traveled in China, I went to McDonalds with some Americans who<\/p>\n<p>had to have it. I had never seen a Chinese McDonalds. When I<\/p>\n<p>arrived, I noticed armed security guards, which complemented all the<\/p>\n<p>other armed men running around the city. I commented to my companions<\/p>\n<p>this was the only McDonalds in the world with armed guards. My<\/p>\n<p>fellows said this was for my protection and also to retard the<\/p>\n<p>beggars. Now, in the United States, we may see armed guards at our<\/p>\n<p>McDonalds:<\/p>\n<p>On the heels of an uptick in violence that claimed the life of an<\/p>\n<p>off-duty cop, Newark&#8217;s city council voted Thursday to require all<\/p>\n<p>late-night restaurants that serve less than 20 people at a time to<\/p>\n<p>have an armed security guard posted from 9 p.m. to closing.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nbcnewyork.com\/news\/local\/City-Council-Votes-for-Armed-Guards-to-Patrol-Newark-Fast-Food-Joints-at-Night-125205659.html\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.nbcnewyork.com\/news\/local\/City-Council-Votes-for-Armed-Guards-to-Patrol-Newark-Fast-Food-Joints-at-Night-125205659.html<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>Most Respectfully,<\/p>\n<p>Joshua Jordan, KSC<\/p>\n<p>Interesting times.<\/p>\n<p>= = = = = = = = = = =<\/p>\n<p><a name=\"Neptune\"><\/a>Neptune&#8217;s 1st birthday&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Hi Jerry.<\/p>\n<p>Ran across an interesting tidbit today: On Sunday it will be one <\/p>\n<p>Neptunian year since that planet was discovered on September 23, 1846. So <\/p>\n<p>don&#8217;t forget to wish Neptune a &quot;Happy Birthday&quot; on Sunday. \ud83d\ude09<\/p>\n<p>Cheers,<\/p>\n<p>Mike Casey<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Happy Birthday<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>= = = = = = = = = = = =<\/p>\n<p>&quot;Despite suggestions to the contrary, the 14th Amendment is not a failsafe that would allow the government to avoid defaulting on its obligations.&quot;<\/p>\n<p>&lt;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.reuters.com\/article\/2011\/07\/07\/us-usa-debt-exclusive-idUSTRE7660GE20110707\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.reuters.com\/article\/2011\/07\/07\/us-usa-debt-exclusive-idUSTRE7660GE20110707<\/a>&gt;<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;<\/p>\n<p>Roland Dobbins<\/p>\n<p>= = = = = = = =<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Mail 682 Saturday July 9, 2011 \u00b7 Fallen Angels \u00b7 Trouble in Malaysia \u00b7 Bunny inspectors and victory gardens \u00b7 Neptune\u2019s Birthday \u00b7 Okay, I couldn&#8217;t resist Croat scientist warns ice age could start in five years &quot;The reality is that mankind needs to start preparing for the ice age. \u2026 <a class=\"continue-reading-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/fallen-angels-neptunes-birthday-20110709-1\/\"> Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr; <\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-514","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-mail"],"post_mailing_queue_ids":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/514","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=514"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/514\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=514"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=514"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=514"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}