{"id":3751,"date":"2011-11-29T23:42:41","date_gmt":"2011-11-30T07:42:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/?p=3751"},"modified":"2011-11-30T12:45:16","modified_gmt":"2011-11-30T20:45:16","slug":"a-mixed-bag-paradoxes-fallen-angels-climate-ironies-and-more","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/a-mixed-bag-paradoxes-fallen-angels-climate-ironies-and-more\/","title":{"rendered":"A mixed bag: paradoxes, Fallen Angels, climate ironies, and more"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Mail 703 Tuesday, November 29, 2011<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"#irony\">A Perfect Climate Irony <\/a><\/p>\n<p>&#160;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/clip_image00270.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"background-image: none; border-right-width: 0px; margin: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; display: inline; border-top-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; padding-top: 0px\" title=\"clip_image002\" border=\"0\" alt=\"clip_image002\" src=\"http:\/\/jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/clip_image002_thumb24.gif\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Subject: cryptogon.com \u00bb Senate Bill 1867: U.S. Military Would Be Able to Indefinitely Detain American Civilians Without Charge or Trial Anywhere in the World<\/p>\n<p>Jerry,<\/p>\n<p>You warned us of this. I refused to heed the warning. You were right.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/cryptogon.com\/?p=26213\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/cryptogon.com\/?p=26213<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Jim Crawford<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>I understand the impulse to decide that this is war and use war tactics inside the United States; but that has severe repercussions. I don\u2019t want to coddle traitors, but citizens do have rights, On the other hand we have carried procedural protection to pretty extreme ranges. Any expansion of the Patriot Act needs a lot of careful consideration. You don\u2019t want to kill the republic in order to defend it.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>We already have the Insurrection Act, why on Earth do we need this, too?<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m not a big fan of the ACLU, but they&#8217;re spot-on with regards to this enormity, IMHO:<\/p>\n<p>&lt;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.aclu.org\/blog\/national-security\/senators-demand-military-lock-american-citizens-battlefield-they-define-being\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.aclu.org\/blog\/national-security\/senators-demand-military-lock-american-citizens-battlefield-they-define-being<\/a>&gt;<\/p>\n<p>Roland Dobbins<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/clip_image002221.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"background-image: none; border-right-width: 0px; margin: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; display: inline; border-top-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; padding-top: 0px\" title=\"clip_image002[2]\" border=\"0\" alt=\"clip_image002[2]\" src=\"http:\/\/jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/clip_image0022_thumb18.gif\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Education stats riddle<\/p>\n<p>&quot;It is also true that the average black student performance in Texas is higher than black student performance in Wisconsin. The average Hispanic student performance in Texas is higher than the average Hispanic student performance in Wisconsin. The average white (non-Latino) student performance in Texas is higher than the average white (non-Latino) student performance in Wisconsin. The three classes are collectively exhaustive.<\/p>\n<p>These facts are true, and they are not contradictory although they may appear to be.&quot;<\/p>\n<p>Well, I thought it was fairly obvious? Higher percent of Latino and\/or black students in Texas compared to Wisconsin? Or it is absolutely politically incorrect to state that, while average Hispanic student performance in Texas is higher than that of Hispanic student in Wisconsin, it is lower than average white non-Latino student in Wisconsin? <\/p>\n<p>But be assured &#8211; it is absolutely politically incorrect here in Israel to observe that high poverty levels among Muslim Arabs and ultra-religious Jews are somehow connected to observed empirical fact that that they usually have a lot of children and only one bread-winner in the family.<\/p>\n<p>Alex Krol<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Texas and Wisconsin<\/p>\n<p>There are more blacks and Hispanics in Texas than in Wisconsin and they do so much worse than anglos that they bring the average down. It could be argued by the PC brigade that it is just that blacks and hispanics are the poor section of society and the poor always score worse in education so if they weren&#8217;t black they would just be the poor of Wisconsin.<\/p>\n<p>Reminds me of the Scot who moved to England and after he left his acquaintances agreed he had thereby increased average IQ levels on both sides of the border. <a href=\"http:\/\/cdn-cf.aol.com\/se\/smi\/0201d20638\/04\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/cdn-cf.aol.com\/se\/smi\/0201d20638\/04<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Neil Craig<\/p>\n<p>&quot;a lone wolf howling in despair in the intellectual wilderness of Scots politics&quot;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/a-place-to-stand.blogspot.com\/\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/a-place-to-stand.blogspot.com\/<\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Wisconsin vs Texas<\/p>\n<p>Jerry,<\/p>\n<p>The seeming contradiction is resolved by noting differences in demographics.<\/p>\n<p>Texas has higher performance within each group, but the fact remains that there are significant differences in the performance of each group in both states. Hispanics outperform blacks and whites out perform Hispanics (and Asians outperform whites). While Texas does a better job of educating each group, Texas has a much larger population of Blacks and Hispanics which makes it appear that Texas does not doing a good job of educating.<\/p>\n<p>Unfortunately; pointing out this indisputable fact will get you branded as a racist. I have often pointed out that the non-Hispanic, caucasion homicide rate in the US is comparable to most European countries. The apparent discrepancy is do to the astonishingly high homicide rate among certain minorities. Blacks account for barely one-eigth of the population but FBI stats show that the commit over half the homicides. The homicide rate by Hispanics is also severely elevated. In spite of the proliferation of guns, the homicide rate for Asians is astonishingly low. <\/p>\n<p>James Crawford<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/clip_image002317.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"background-image: none; border-right-width: 0px; margin: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; display: inline; border-top-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; padding-top: 0px\" title=\"clip_image002[3]\" border=\"0\" alt=\"clip_image002[3]\" src=\"http:\/\/jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/clip_image0023_thumb15.gif\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Moon and Earth&#8217;s Limb<\/p>\n<p>Jerry,<\/p>\n<p>Another &quot;boring&quot; picture<\/p>\n<p>&lt;<a href=\"http:\/\/earthobservatory.nasa.gov\/IOTD\/view.php?id=76534\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/earthobservatory.nasa.gov\/IOTD\/view.php?id=76534<\/a>&gt;<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ll take as many as I can get.<\/p>\n<p>Regards, Charles Adams, Bellevue, NE<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/clip_image002415.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"background-image: none; border-right-width: 0px; margin: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; display: inline; border-top-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; padding-top: 0px\" title=\"clip_image002[4]\" border=\"0\" alt=\"clip_image002[4]\" src=\"http:\/\/jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/clip_image0024_thumb11.gif\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Averages<\/p>\n<p>&quot;Many a statistician has drowned whilst crossing a very wide river with an average depth of 1 foot.&quot;<\/p>\n<p>mojo<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/clip_image002511.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"background-image: none; border-right-width: 0px; margin: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; display: inline; border-top-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; padding-top: 0px\" title=\"clip_image002[5]\" border=\"0\" alt=\"clip_image002[5]\" src=\"http:\/\/jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/clip_image0025_thumb9.gif\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>&#8230;comes the Ice<\/p>\n<p>My comment is nothing profound (or original), but wouldn&#8217;t it be killingly funny if anthropogenic global warming were exactly what we need to halt the descent into the next glacial maximum?<\/p>\n<p>Best regards,<\/p>\n<p>Robert<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Indeed.<\/p>\n<p><a name=\"irony\"><\/a>Now for the irony: <\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Perfect Climate Irony<\/p>\n<p>Jerry, I&#8217;ve stayed away from your sites for some time, as I&#8217;m engrossed in the Great Climate Resistance movement (my neological label), and your stuff is just too damn fascinating, and distracts me.<\/p>\n<p>But I happened across a nice post summarizing the issues around the IBUKU satellite results released by JAXA: <\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p> <a href=\"http:\/\/co2insanity.com\/2011\/11\/15\/new-satellite-data-contradicts-carbon-dioxide-climate-theory\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/co2insanity.com\/2011\/11\/15\/new-satellite-data-contradicts-carbon-dioxide-climate-theory<\/a>   <\/p>\n<p>Hard data showing the industrialized countries are CO2 sinks, undeveloped ones are sources. Totally 180\u00b0 opposite of the Climate Science claims and assumptions. As usual.<\/p>\n<p>The logic of &quot;climate reparations&quot; means, as I commented:<\/p>\n<p>&quot;A more perfect natural irony could not be conceived.<\/p>\n<p>The undeveloped nations have two choices: industrialize as fast as possible, or pay huge reparations to the West.<\/p>\n<p>What\u2019s not to love?&quot;<\/p>\n<p>Heh.<\/p>\n<p>Brian Hall<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/clip_image002610.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"background-image: none; border-right-width: 0px; margin: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; display: inline; border-top-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; padding-top: 0px\" title=\"clip_image002[6]\" border=\"0\" alt=\"clip_image002[6]\" src=\"http:\/\/jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/clip_image0026_thumb7.gif\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Obama Ditching Working Class<\/p>\n<p>Jerry,<\/p>\n<p>More and more it sounds like the Lords and the Lordkin verses the Kinless. Let the Burning City Burn! <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.newsmax.com\/TheWire\/limbaugh-obama\/2011\/11\/28\/id\/419266?s=al&amp;promo_code=D98A-1\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.newsmax.com\/TheWire\/limbaugh-obama\/2011\/11\/28\/id\/419266?s=al&amp;promo_code=D98A-1<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Jim Crawford<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/clip_image002711.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"background-image: none; border-right-width: 0px; margin: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; display: inline; border-top-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; padding-top: 0px\" title=\"clip_image002[7]\" border=\"0\" alt=\"clip_image002[7]\" src=\"http:\/\/jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/clip_image0027_thumb8.gif\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Nomenklatura<\/p>\n<p>&quot;One of the simplest ways to end the Depression we are entering is to abolish many of the Federal regulatory agencies and give those powers to the states.&quot;<\/p>\n<p>Jerry,<\/p>\n<p>I would like to hear your reasoning behind the above statement. Wouldn&#8217;t the effect be to multiply the lobbying and regulatory agencies by 50? The iron law rules as always. Or would it be that the states would then compete with each other to see who could have the fewest rules and regulations, fostering a &#8216;wild west&#8217; type atmosphere for businesses of all sorts. Where would one draw the line? Un-checked polluters? Toxic waste dumps? <\/p>\n<p>While I agree that lobbying and the rise of the nomenklatura on a national level has many undesirable and or unintended consequences, shouldn&#8217;t all Americans, regardless of which state they live in, live by a common set of rules?<\/p>\n<p>As a Canadian, have I missed the essence of what is America? I view it as a single (great!) country, not as 50 separate countries.<\/p>\n<p>gord<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Gordon Crone<\/p>\n<p>States would compete with each other, and there might well be conflicts between neighboring states; but what we have now is pretty well intolerable. Leaving such matters to the states won\u2019t instantly destroy the country, and just now the regulations as they work now very well could. I suspect much of what we do by regulation could better be done with suits for damages, and that would be a lot less stifling. The current situation isn\u2019t working. Leaving matters to the states is one way to dismantle what we have; if it has to be started over, that would probably be preferable to what we\u2019ve built.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/clip_image002810.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"background-image: none; border-right-width: 0px; margin: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; display: inline; border-top-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; padding-top: 0px\" title=\"clip_image002[8]\" border=\"0\" alt=\"clip_image002[8]\" src=\"http:\/\/jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/clip_image0028_thumb7.gif\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>\u201cThere have never been any reported accidents from these kinds of devices on planes.\u201d <\/p>\n<p>&lt;<a href=\"http:\/\/bits.blogs.nytimes.com\/2011\/11\/27\/disruptions-fliers-must-turn-off-devices-but-its-not-clear-why\/\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/bits.blogs.nytimes.com\/2011\/11\/27\/disruptions-fliers-must-turn-off-devices-but-its-not-clear-why\/<\/a>&gt;<\/p>\n<p>In reality, *nobody* actually powers off these devices &#8211; they merely &#8216;close&#8217; or &#8216;sleep&#8217; them. Which means that all the supposedly evil RFI from their wireless radios is in fact echoing around the cabin for the entirety of the flight (if you don&#8217;t believe me, covertly run a WiFi scanner on your phone, or just look at all the discoverable Bluetooth-enabled phones you can find via your phone&#8217;s Bluetooth discovery function). It&#8217;s simply safety theatre.<\/p>\n<p>The airlines support this nonsense because they would like to have a justification for forbidding passengers from using electronic devices at all during flight, thus herding them towards using pay-per-use electronic entertainment media systems which have been installed on practically all modern airliners.<\/p>\n<p>Roland Dobbins<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>All I really know is that no one seems to have objected to my old Zenith clamshell laptop back when laptops were rare, and the first time I took one on an airplane the stewardess was so impressed that she went and got the Captain, who insisted that I show it to him. No one told me to turn it off at any time in the flight. Then somewhere in there we started getting the message to turn the devices off. I comply, but I have never really understood what problems they cause. I suppose I can conceive of badly made devices that might be able to interfere with navigation systems, and since they can\u2019t tell those from others \u2013 on the other hand, it\u2019s very easy simply not to turn off an electronic device if you actually mean harm to the aircraft.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/clip_image00299.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"background-image: none; border-right-width: 0px; margin: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; display: inline; border-top-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; padding-top: 0px\" title=\"clip_image002[9]\" border=\"0\" alt=\"clip_image002[9]\" src=\"http:\/\/jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/clip_image0029_thumb9.gif\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Cold fusion<\/p>\n<p>Hello Jerry,<\/p>\n<p>Here is a link to &#8216;ecat news&#8217;: <a href=\"http:\/\/ecatnews.com\/\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/ecatnews.com\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p>If you scroll down a bit, you come to a video of a presentation at<\/p>\n<p>Cafe Scientifique Silicon Valley by Mike McKubre of SRI International<\/p>\n<p>that you may find interesting. It is in eight segments totaling<\/p>\n<p>around 102 minutes and gives the history of cold fusion<\/p>\n<p>experimentation, results achieved at SRI, and some commentary about<\/p>\n<p>Rossi&#8217;s eCat.<\/p>\n<p>Whether cold fusion, in whatever form, ever turns out to be real,<\/p>\n<p>repeatable, and commercially viable, the field is certainly not<\/p>\n<p>confined to kooks, frauds, and incompetents. SRI has put at least 60<\/p>\n<p>man years into it and there is a lot of other research going on in<\/p>\n<p>the field in the US and in other countries around the world. Summing<\/p>\n<p>up Mike&#8217;s presentation, the effect is real, it is reproducible, so<\/p>\n<p>far it (except possibly for Rossi&#8217;s eCat) does not produce excess<\/p>\n<p>energy in commercially exploitable form, and no one really<\/p>\n<p>understands exactly what is going on inside the experiments.<\/p>\n<p>Bob Ludwick <\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Actually the Navy continues to fund cold fusion research; the payoff is so high that even though the probabilities of it working to produce usable power are very low, the research still makes a certain amount of sense. That\u2019s the kind of research I think governments ought to engage in, actually. Very high risk, very high payoff. <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/clip_image0021012.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"background-image: none; border-right-width: 0px; margin: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; display: inline; border-top-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; padding-top: 0px\" title=\"clip_image002[10]\" border=\"0\" alt=\"clip_image002[10]\" src=\"http:\/\/jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/clip_image00210_thumb12.gif\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Your neighbor?<\/p>\n<p>Perusing Google Earth seem to show that Ed Begley Jr.&#8217;s little wind turbine is no longer in place. Is that the case?<\/p>\n<p>Best wishes to you and your family in this holiday season.<\/p>\n<p>Regards,<\/p>\n<p>Michael Walters<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Ed took down his little wind turbine the last time he had the roof worked on. It just wasn\u2019t cost effective, which is hardly surprising; winds strong enough to generate real power are rare in Los Angeles except in a Santa Ana season and when that happens the wind may be too strong. It was an experiment.<\/p>\n<p>Ed is not na\u00efve about all this, and he keeps good records about the cost of living off the grid, or trying to. I\u2019m trying to get him and Niven together to do solar panels for Niven\u2019s house: given the tax credits and subsidies it might be a good idea for Niven, who doesn\u2019t live in the LA power district. Without the subsidies it wouldn\u2019t be a consideration, but if you are already paying a lot in taxes, the tax credits for doing \u201cgreen\u201d can cover a great deal of the capital costs, and that changes the picture a lot. Solar works for some times and places; wind is a great deal less likely to be cost effective or even affordable.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/clip_image0021121.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"background-image: none; border-right-width: 0px; margin: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; display: inline; border-top-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; padding-top: 0px\" title=\"clip_image002[11]\" border=\"0\" alt=\"clip_image002[11]\" src=\"http:\/\/jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/clip_image00211_thumb17.gif\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Fallen Angels at 20. <\/p>\n<p>&lt;<a href=\"http:\/\/file770.com\/?p=7597\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/file770.com\/?p=7597<\/a>&gt;<\/p>\n<p>Roland Dobbins<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/clip_image0021214.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"background-image: none; border-right-width: 0px; margin: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; display: inline; border-top-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; padding-top: 0px\" title=\"clip_image002[12]\" border=\"0\" alt=\"clip_image002[12]\" src=\"http:\/\/jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/clip_image00212_thumb13.gif\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Tory Aardvark<\/p>\n<p>Jerry,<\/p>\n<p>You are probably aware of this but I thought I would send this link.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/toryaardvark.com\/2011\/11\/17\/14000-abandoned-wind-turbines-in-the-usa\/\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/toryaardvark.com\/2011\/11\/17\/14000-abandoned-wind-turbines-in-the-usa\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Even the most optimistic advocates project that wind turbines take decades to pay for themselves. Having the turbines abandoned because the operating costs are too high illustrates the fact that they never will economical energy sources.<\/p>\n<p>Jim<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>It is my understanding that except for certain places in Scandinavia there are no windmill setups that have generated more usable power than it took to manufacture them. The breakeaven point is surprisingly high. Wind is good when it can do intermittent tasks: the old farm windmills used to fill animal watering troughs, and so long as the trough got refilled before it was empty, it didn\u2019t matter when that happened, evening or dawn or night or noon. I recall when nearly every farm had one. They were safe for birds, too. Now these windmill fields are killing migrating birds and lots of bats. Ah well.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/clip_image0021311.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"background-image: none; border-right-width: 0px; margin: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; display: inline; border-top-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; padding-top: 0px\" title=\"clip_image002[13]\" border=\"0\" alt=\"clip_image002[13]\" src=\"http:\/\/jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/clip_image00213_thumb7.gif\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Doom and gloom &#8211; intelligence is an evolutionary dead end<\/p>\n<p>It seems intelligence may well be an evolutionary dead end. And we&#8217;ll go out<\/p>\n<p>with a sniffle rather than a large explosion.<\/p>\n<p>Paper On Super Flu Strain May Be Banned From Publication<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/science.slashdot.org\/story\/11\/11\/29\/0015216\/paper-on-super-flu-strain-may-be-banned-from-publication\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/science.slashdot.org\/story\/11\/11\/29\/0015216\/paper-on-super-flu-strain-may-be-banned-from-publication<\/a><\/p>\n<p>A Dutch researcher has created a strain of H5N1 genetically engineered to be<\/p>\n<p>extremely contagious. Why was he working on this? What will this mean to the<\/p>\n<p>future of the human species? Will flu shots do any good?<\/p>\n<p>{O.O}<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Carl Sagan used to speculate that one answer to Fermi\u2019s paradox is that when a species gets intelligent enough it wipes itself out.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/clip_image002145.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"background-image: none; border-right-width: 0px; margin: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; display: inline; border-top-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; padding-top: 0px\" title=\"clip_image002[14]\" border=\"0\" alt=\"clip_image002[14]\" src=\"http:\/\/jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/clip_image00214_thumb1.gif\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/clip_image0042.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"background-image: none; border-right-width: 0px; margin: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; display: inline; border-top-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; padding-top: 0px\" title=\"clip_image004\" border=\"0\" alt=\"clip_image004\" src=\"http:\/\/jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/clip_image004_thumb2.jpg\" width=\"244\" height=\"6\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/clip_image002151.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"background-image: none; border-right-width: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; display: inline; border-top-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; padding-top: 0px\" title=\"clip_image002[15]\" border=\"0\" alt=\"clip_image002[15]\" src=\"http:\/\/jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/clip_image00215_thumb.gif\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Mail 703 Tuesday, November 29, 2011 A Perfect Climate Irony &#160; Subject: cryptogon.com \u00bb Senate Bill 1867: U.S. Military Would Be Able to Indefinitely Detain American Civilians Without Charge or Trial Anywhere in the World Jerry, You warned us of this. I refused to heed the warning. You were right. \u2026 <a class=\"continue-reading-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/a-mixed-bag-paradoxes-fallen-angels-climate-ironies-and-more\/\"> Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr; <\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3751","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-mail"],"post_mailing_queue_ids":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3751","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3751"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3751\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3751"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3751"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3751"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}