{"id":28762,"date":"2017-08-10T16:36:39","date_gmt":"2017-08-10T23:36:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/?p=28762"},"modified":"2017-08-10T16:36:39","modified_gmt":"2017-08-10T23:36:39","slug":"nuclear-war-fire-and-fury-we-seem-to-have-lost-the-fourth-amendment-but-who-cares","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/nuclear-war-fire-and-fury-we-seem-to-have-lost-the-fourth-amendment-but-who-cares\/","title":{"rendered":"Nuclear War? Fire and Fury? We seem to have lost the Fourth amendment, but who cares?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

Thursday, August 10, 2017 <\/p>\n

Being intelligent is not a felony. But most societies evaluate it as at least a misdemeanor. <\/p>\n

-Robert A. Heinlein <\/p>\n

The map is not the territory. <\/p>\n

Alfred Korzybski <\/p>\n

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Liberalism is a philosophy of consolation for the West as it commits suicide. <\/p>\n

James Burnham <\/p>\n

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We have to start with the premise that the goal is to defeat the enemy. <\/p>\n

Jim Woolsey <\/p>\n

\"bubbles\"<\/p> <\/p>\n

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Colin Powell Says U.S. Should Destroy North Korean Regime If It Uses Nuclear Weapons <\/b> <\/p>\n

https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=_7g_8mxaLvQ<\/a> <\/p>\n

Published on Apr 18, 2013<\/b> <\/p>\n

Former U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell on Thursday (April 18) said that he would recommend the U.S. destroy the North Korean regime should Pyongyang ever attempt to use nuclear weapons.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

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Which is essentially what President Trump said, albeit Mr. Trump is both more emotional and graphic; perhaps it takes that. But his threat of fire and fury is no less threatening than the Secretary of State informing them calmly that we will turn North Korea into a parking lot. President Trump got a lot more headlines. And now he is saying that perhaps he was not tough enough; he wants Marshall Kim Jong Un \u2013 the title that Chairman Kim prefers \u2013 to understand that the first use of nuclear weapons moves us into the realm of Full Destruction rather quickly. I suspect he also wants Marshall Kim\u2019s immediate subordinates to understand that as well. I certainly hope they got the message. <\/p>\n

I recall, as many younger readers will not, the panic that the Cuban Missile Crisis brought about during the Kennedy administration. I lived in Seattle and worked in Strategic Analysis at the time. We had access to information about strategic weapons, ours and the Soviet Union\u2019s, and and thus knew of their destructive capabilities \u2013 and the rather large numbers of them both sides had (or the Russians could have had; threat assessment is usually not done by assuming the other side is incompetent or incapable with evidence we did not have). <\/p>\n

My house was in the north part of Seattle, the Green Lake district, and was tens of miles distant from Boeing, at that time the main and perhaps only strategic target in Seattle; given reasonable Soviet missile accuracy we were unlikely to be affected by blast damage. Prevailing winds tend to be from the west, and Boeing Plant Two the main war plant is a bit east of Green Lake, but our house was within the predictable fallout area. So, for several days, my college roommate and I filled bags of dirt and constructed a makeshift fallout shelter in the Basement; we did not disturb the upstairs rooms where Roberta and our first born were, but the plan was to cover the floor up there with books, of which we had many, if we actually had to fear fallout <\/p>\n

It wasn\u2019t much of a fallout shelter, but it would have to do. Fortunately the crisis was averted; Khrushchev withdrew his nuclear tipped missiles from Cuba, the Navy withdrew its blockade, and the Cuban people remained in the Soviet orbit but not as a missile base. Without Cuban missiles, bombardment of the southern US from Russia was more difficult. That was not comforting in Seattle, which is far north, far west, and close to the sea where Soviet submarines might or might not have the ability to launch ballistic missiles at that time, but they certainly could and did carry cruise missiles they could launch at sea. They had demonstrated that. <\/p>\n

But the crisis went away. I became much more interested in survival techniques, even had a column in Survive Magazine. And in1964 moved to San Bernardino which was not a counterforce target, although it was downwind from Los Angeles which was certainly a countervalue target. <\/p>\n

\"bubbles\"<\/p> \n

The current events are not quite so threatening to the United States. Marshall Kim might have the capability of taking out some American countervalue targets. Guam is at risk, as is all of Japan and South Korea, but Hawaii is questionably in range as is Alaska. Nuclear destruction of any part of the US proper would, I think, not be appealing to the Marshall; surely he understands that whatever the US did in retaliation, his own death would be certain, and Pyongyang would not have one stone left on another within hours of the first nuclear explosion. Colin Powell actually threatened more to the Marshall\u2019s father \u2013 parking lot was the image he used, and for the whole country, not just Pyongyang. <\/p>\n

The people in Guam are concerned that we might not wreak similar vengeance if North Korea destroyed a military asset there. President Trump has assured them we will. He may have been overly dramatic as his critics have said, but the soft language of Diplomacy seems ineffective with Marshall Kim. <\/p>\n

We avoided nuclear events during the Cold War. The Russians tried to impress us with Tsar Bomba, but while the weapon worked \u2013 it was the largest nuclear event known for billions of years, exceeded in power only by meteoric bombardment \u2013 strategic analysts discounted it as undeliverable. By the time technology advanced enough to make such a monster deliverable, the era of MAD, Mutual Assured Destruction, ended with the dissolution of the USSR and the end of the Cold War. <\/p>\n

At the time we thought there would never be another MAD period. We were wrong. An era of diplomacy has brought about a nuclear power which can pluck out our beard and blow it in our faces; and do it with impunity because the Marshall has NUKES. What messages that delivers to would be emulators of the Marshall I leave to the reader to imagine. I expect Khadafy wished he had bought nukes rather than Finlandized to the United States. <\/p>\n

It is a time for concern, but I am not going to go out and dig to build a fallout shelter. Anyway I don\u2019t have a basement, and my survival company dissolved many years ago. <\/p>\n

\"bubbles\"<\/p> \n

Fourth Article of Amendment to the Constitution of the United States <\/p>\n

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The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.  <\/p>\n

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Apparently the Fourth Amendment no longer applies if you engage in foreign commerce, have foreign bank accounts, or have worked for Donald Trump. All or any of those are now probable cause for a special prosecutor. I would like to know whose oath supports the warrant. <\/p>\n

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FBI agents searched former Trump campaign chair\u2019s home<\/h3>\n

http:\/\/www.breitbart.com\/news\/fbi-agents-searched-former-trump-campaign-chairs-home\/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_term=daily&utm_content=links&utm_campaign=20170809<\/a> <\/p>\n

WASHINGTON (AP) \u2014 FBI agents served a search warrant at the home of Paul Manafort, President Donald Trump\u2019s former campaign chairman, Manafort\u2019s spokesman said Wednesday. <\/p>\n

Spokesman Jason Maloni says that Manafort cooperated with the agents as he has \u201cconsistently\u201d done. <\/p>\n

Manafort has been a subject of a longstanding FBI investigation into his dealings in Ukraine and work for that country\u2019s former president, Viktor Yanukovych. Special Counsel Robert Mueller is also investigating Manafort as part of his probe into Russia\u2019s meddling in the 2016 election and any possible collusion with Trump associates. <\/p>\n

Manafort has denied any wrongdoing. He has also cooperated with congressional committees investigating the election interference. Manafort has turned over documents to the intelligence and judiciary committees in the Senate. Manafort led the Trump campaign for several months. <\/p>\n

The FBI search was first reported Wednesday by The Washington Post, which said it occurred July 26. <\/p>\n

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Has anyone actually seen the warrant? What actual crime is alleged that allows this search and seizure? Does anyone care? <\/p>\n

\"bubbles\"<\/p> \n

You Are Mentioned on SurvivalBlog.com <\/p>\n

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Dr. Pournelle:
Your birthday was mentioned today on http:\/\/www.survivalblog.com<\/a>:
https:\/\/survivalblog.com\/preparedness-notes-monday-august-07-2017\/<\/a>
The Iron Law of Bureaucracy is also the Editors’ Quote of the Day:
https:\/\/survivalblog.com\/editors-quote-day-89\/<\/a>
Happy Birthday!! Keep up the great work.<\/p>\n

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Michael<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

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Freedom is not free. Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free. <\/p>\n

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