{"id":26846,"date":"2015-10-16T15:16:11","date_gmt":"2015-10-16T22:16:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/?p=26846"},"modified":"2015-10-17T23:52:00","modified_gmt":"2015-10-18T06:52:00","slug":"dyson-spheres-and-other-important-matters","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/dyson-spheres-and-other-important-matters\/","title":{"rendered":"Dyson Spheres and other important matters"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Chaos Manor View, Friday, October 16, 2015<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve been overwhelmed with stuff, all urgent in the sense that it can\u2019t be ignored. And now it\u2019s past time for lunch. The Dyson\u2019s Sphere speculation is fun, but hardly urgent\u2026<\/p>\n <p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26270 noborder\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/bubbles.gif\" alt=\"bubbles\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" style:\"border='0';box-shadow:none;\"  \/><\/p> \n <p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26270 noborder\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/bubbles.gif\" alt=\"bubbles\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" style:\"border='0';box-shadow:none;\"  \/><\/p> \n<blockquote>\n<p>Dyson Sphere on Space?<\/p>\n<p>While it&#8217;s still too early to tell, and we had similar speculation when neutron stars were discovered, we may have confirmation that we&#8217;re not alone. I read many articles about this, and I plan to follow this closely:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/news\/morning-mix\/wp\/2015\/10\/15\/the-strange-star-that-has-serious-scientists-talking-about-an-alien-megastructure\/\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/news\/morning-mix\/wp\/2015\/10\/15\/the-strange-star-that-has-serious-scientists-talking-about-an-alien-megastructure\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u25ca \u25ca \u25ca \u25ca \u25ca<\/p>\n<p>Most Respectfully,<\/p>\n<p>Joshua Jordan, KSC<\/p>\n<p>Percussa Resurgo<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n<p>large structures orbiting a star <br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/science\/archive\/2015\/10\/the-most-interesting-star-in-our-galaxy\/410023\/\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/science\/archive\/2015\/10\/the-most-interesting-star-in-our-galaxy\/410023\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Eric Gilmer<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n<p>&#8220;Aliens should always be the very last hypothesis you consider, but this looked like something you would expect an alien civilization to build.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&lt;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.mirror.co.uk\/news\/world-news\/alien-megastructure-could-surround-giant-6632574\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.mirror.co.uk\/news\/world-news\/alien-megastructure-could-surround-giant-6632574<\/a>&gt;<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<\/p>\n<p>Roland Dobbins<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>There\u2019s been a lot about the discovery of a Dyson Sphere, or an \u201cAlien Object\u201d by the Kepler telescope.<\/p>\n<p>The following is a series of emails tracking this story. Participants are an electrical engineer, a physicist and Stephanie Osborne, Interstellar woman of mystery and more relevantly retired NASA rocket scientist. It won\u2019t settle the matter because it isn\u2019t settled, but here\u2019s what rational discussion brings us so far. It started with a note from a Ph.D. Physics friend:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>From: Physicist<\/p>\n<p>To: <a href=\"mailto:steph-osborn@sff.net\">steph-osborn@sff.net<\/a> (Stephanie)<br \/>Subject: Wow<br \/>Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 17:06:20 +0000<\/p>\n<p>Please forward (removing my work email) to the usual suspects<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/news\/world\/forget-water-on-mars-astronomers-may-have-just-found-giant-alien-megastructures-orbiting-a-star-near-a6693886.htmlP\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/news\/world\/forget-water-on-mars-astronomers-may-have-just-found-giant-alien-megastructures-orbiting-a-star-near-a6693886.htmlP<\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>&#8211; &#8211; &#8211;<\/p>\n<p>Which is worthy of a wow to be forwarded to the usual suspects like me.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; &#8211; &#8211;<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><b>From:<\/b> Stephanie [<a href=\"mailto:vvalkyrie@hotmail.com\">mailto:<a href=\"mailto:steph-osborn@sff.net\">steph-osborn@sff.net<\/a><\/a><b> Sent:<\/b> Thursday, October 15, 2015 12:10 PM<br \/><b>Subject:<\/b> RE: Wow<\/p>\n<p>When I click on the link it gives me a page not found.<\/p>\n<p>If it&#8217;s the same as this, it&#8217;s already all over Facebook:<br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.outerplaces.com\/science\/item\/10127-did-astronomers-just-find-evidence-of-an-extraterrestrial-dyson-sphere\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.outerplaces.com\/science\/item\/10127-did-astronomers-just-find-evidence-of-an-extraterrestrial-dyson-sphere<\/a><\/p>\n<p>and the probability is high that it is simply some very large stuff left over from system formation. Dyson spheres, it is now realized, take more material to build than is found in a typical stellar system, excluding the central star. Ringworlds aren&#8217;t a lot better. The article I listed actually proposes several different natural phenomes for the observations.<br \/><strong>Stephanie Osborn<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>&#8220;The Interstellar Woman of Mystery&#8221;<\/strong><br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.stephanie-osborn.com\/\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>http:\/\/www.Stephanie-Osborn.com<\/strong><\/a><strong> <\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>&#8211; &#8211; &#8211; &#8211;<\/p>\n<p>Stephanie\u2019s link led to<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><b>Did Astronomers Just Find Evidence of an Extraterrestrial Dyson Sphere?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.outerplaces.com\/science\/item\/10127-did-astronomers-just-find-evidence-of-an-extraterrestrial-dyson-sphere\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.outerplaces.com\/science\/item\/10127-did-astronomers-just-find-evidence-of-an-extraterrestrial-dyson-sphere<\/a><\/p>\n<p>The star, called KIC 8462852, experiences dips in its brightness, which is nothing unusual on its own. The Kepler Space Telescope has found thousands of exoplanets by observing their transits across neighboring stars, which causes their brightness to dim briefly. However, the dips are too extreme and too erratic to be the result of run-of-the-mill transiting exoplanets. A transit usually causes a star&#8217;s brightness to dim by less than one percent, and on a periodic basis, as the exoplanet orbits the star regularly. But this star has experienced huge dips in brightness, up to 22%, which simply could not be the result of a planet, and it doesn&#8217;t seem to be occurring on any kind of cyclical basis. <br \/>There are several explanations that are somewhat plausible, but none are perfect. It would make sense if there were some kind of massive planetary collision in the recent past that caused huge chunks of debris to surround the star, causing transits with no apparent rhyme or reason. But we would expect the dust created in a huge collision to emit excess infrared light, which hasn&#8217;t been observed in the area surrounding the star. The best explanation is a series of comets circling the star, but even then it&#8217;s difficult to explain such a huge blockage of light.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>&#8211; &#8211; &#8211; &#8211;<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s pretty intriguing, and is actually worth reading.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Next came the physicist, who is usually pretty skeptical:<\/p>\n<p>From: Physicist<\/p>\n<p>Subject: RE: Wow<br \/>Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 17:14:05 +0000<\/p>\n<p>Boyajian, who oversees the Planet Hunters project, recently published <a href=\"http:\/\/arxiv.org\/pdf\/1509.03622v1.pdf\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">a paper<\/a> looking at all the possible natural explanations for the objects and found all of them wanting except one \u2013 that another star had pulled a string of comets close to KIC 8462852. <b>But even this would involve an incredibly improbable coincidence.<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Paper at <a href=\"http:\/\/arxiv.org\/pdf\/1509.03622v1.pdf\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/arxiv.org\/pdf\/1509.03622v1.pdf<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&#8211; &#8211; &#8211; &#8211;<\/p>\n<p>I guarantee you will not read all of this paper; here are the summary and conclusions:<\/p>\n<p>http:\/\/arxiv.org\/pdf\/1509.03622v1.pdf<\/p>\n<p>5 SUMMARY AND CONCLUSIONS<\/p>\n<p>In this paper, we have shown that KIC 8462852 is an unique source<\/p>\n<p>in the<\/p>\n<p>Kepler<\/p>\n<p>field. We conducted numerous observations of the<\/p>\n<p>star and its environment, and our analysis characterizes the object<\/p>\n<p>as both remarkable (e.g., the \u201cdipping\u201d events in the<\/p>\n<p>Kepler<\/p>\n<p>light<\/p>\n<p>curve) and unremarkable (ground-based data reveal no deviation<\/p>\n<p>from a normal F-type star) at the same time. We presented an ex-<\/p>\n<p>tensive set of scenarios to explain the occurrence of the dips, most<\/p>\n<p>of which are unsuccessful in explaining the observations in their en-<\/p>\n<p>tirety. However, of the various considered, we find that the break-up<\/p>\n<p>of a exocomet provides the most compelling explanation.<\/p>\n<p>Observations of KIC 8462852 should continue to aid in un-<\/p>\n<p>raveling its mysteries. First and foremost, long-term photometric<\/p>\n<p>monitoring is imperative in order to catch future dipping events. It<\/p>\n<p>would be helpful to know whether observations reveal no further<\/p>\n<p>dips, or continued dips. If the dips continue, are they periodic? Do<\/p>\n<p>they change in size or shape? On one hand, the more dips the more<\/p>\n<p>problematic from the lack of IR emission perspective. Likewise, in<\/p>\n<p>the comet scenario there could be no further dips; the longer the<\/p>\n<p>dips persist in the light curve, the further around the orbit the frag-<\/p>\n<p>ments would have to have spread. The possibility of getting color<\/p>\n<p>information for the dips would also help determine the size of the<\/p>\n<p>obscuring dust. On the other hand, following the prediction in Sec-<\/p>\n<p>tion<\/p>\n<p>4.4.3<\/p>\n<p>, if a collision took place, we should see re-occurring dip-<\/p>\n<p>ping events caused from debris in 2017 May. Unfortunately, the<\/p>\n<p>2015 April event likely went unobserved, as all available photo-<\/p>\n<p>metric archives we checked came up with nothing. In collabora-<\/p>\n<p>tion with the MEarth team (PI, D. Charbonneau), monitoring of<\/p>\n<p>KIC 8462852 will thankfully continue from the ground beginning<\/p>\n<p>in the Fall of 2015. This will enable us to establish a firm baseline<\/p>\n<p>of its variability post-<\/p>\n<p>Kepler<\/p>\n<p>.<\/p>\n<p>Several of the proposed scenarios are ruled out by the lack of<\/p>\n<p>observed IR excess (Section<\/p>\n<p>2.4<\/p>\n<p>), but the comet scenario requires<\/p>\n<p>the least. However, if these are time-dependent phenomenon, there<\/p>\n<p>could be a detectable amount of IR emission if the system were<\/p>\n<p>observed today. In the comet scenario, the level of emission could<\/p>\n<p>vary quite rapidly in the near-IR as clumps pass through pericen-<\/p>\n<p>ter (and so while they are transiting). The WISE observations were<\/p>\n<p>made in Q5, so detecting IR-emission from the large impact sce-<\/p>\n<p>nario, assuming the impact occurred in Q8 (D800, Section<\/p>\n<p>4.4.3<\/p>\n<p>),<\/p>\n<p>is also a possibility. We acknowledge that a long-term monitoring<\/p>\n<p>in the IR would be demanding on current resources\/facilities, but<\/p>\n<p>variations detected in the optical monitoring could trigger such ef-<\/p>\n<p>fort to observe at the times of the dips.<\/p>\n<p>Our most promising theory invokes a family of exocomets.<\/p>\n<p>One way we imagine such a barrage of comets could be triggered<\/p>\n<p>is by the passage of a field star through the system. And, in fact,<\/p>\n<p>as discussed above, there is a small star nearby (<\/p>\n<p>1000<\/p>\n<p>AU; Sec-<\/p>\n<p>tion<\/p>\n<p>2.3<\/p>\n<p>) which, if moving near to KIC 8462852, but not bound to<\/p>\n<p>it, could trigger a barrage of bodies into the vicinity of the host<\/p>\n<p>star. On the other hand, if the companion star is bound, it could<\/p>\n<p>be pumping up comet eccentricities through the Kozai mechanism.<\/p>\n<p>Measuring the motion\/orbit of the companion star with respect to<\/p>\n<p>KIC 8462852 would be telling in whether or not it is associated, and<\/p>\n<p>we would then be able to put stricter predictions on the timescale<\/p>\n<p>and repeatability of comet showers based on bound or unbound<\/p>\n<p>star-comet perturbing models. Finally, comets would release gas<\/p>\n<p>(as well as dust), and sensitive observations to detect this gas would<\/p>\n<p>also test this hypothesis.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Our physicist friend said the explanations given were fairy improbable; Stephanie said \u201cEven so; I find that far more likely than the notion of a Dyson sphere.\u201d I went off to LASFS having run out of time yesterday.<\/p>\n<p>There came from our good friend the electrical engineer<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 14:28:24 +0000<br \/>From: engineer<br \/>To: <a href=\"mailto:steph-osborn@sff.netCC\">steph-osborn@sff.net<br \/>CC<\/a>: usual suspects<\/p>\n<p>Subject: Re: Wow<\/p>\n<p>Randy Bovell just sent to me and I thought you all might find this interesting concerning the conversation.<\/p>\n<h3>Alien technology possibly spotted orbiting a distant star<\/h3>\n<h4>Scientists recently identified an irregular mess of objects orbiting a distant star that defies most natural explanations.<\/h4>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.mnn.com\/earth-matters\/space\/stories\/alien-technology-possibly-spotted-orbiting-distant-star\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.mnn.com\/earth-matters\/space\/stories\/alien-technology-possibly-spotted-orbiting-distant-star<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Nestled between the constellations of Cygnus and Lyra sits what might be the strangest, most mysterious <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mnn.com\/earth-matters\/space\/photos\/8-incredible-images-of-dead-and-dying-stars\/lighting-up-dead-star-s\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">star<\/a> in our galaxy. This star, designated as KIC 8462852, is not particularly unusual in and of itself. What&#8217;s odd is what astronomers have spotted orbitting it: an irregularly-shaped mess of objects that appear unnatural, possibly even alien, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/science\/archive\/2015\/10\/the-most-interesting-star-in-our-galaxy\/410023\/?utm_source=SFFB\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">reports The Atlantic<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>The star was first flagged by amateur astronomers in 2011 for its peculiar dimming pattern, as detected by the Kepler Space Telescope. By themselves, dimming patterns in distant stars are not that usual. In fact, they are what Kepler scientists look for in their hunt for faraway planets. As planets pass in front of their stars, they momentarily block out a portion of the light being <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mnn.com\/earth-matters\/space\/blogs\/star-trails-rare-honey-moon-gleam-over-red-rock-canyon-state-park\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">emitted by the star<\/a>, thus revealing themselves. Thousands of exoplanets have been discovered this way in recent years.<\/p>\n<p><strong>PHOTO BREAK: <\/strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.mnn.com\/earth-matters\/space\/photos\/12-out-world-observatories\/view-cosmos\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>12 out-of-this-world observatories<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The dimming pattern identified in KIC 8462852, however, was unlike any discovered among the over 150,000 stars that have been analyzed by the Kepler Space Telescope. The pattern suggested that KIC 8462852 was surrounded by a whole jumble of objects in extremely tight formation. Such a pattern might be expected from a young star, with a solar system that was first forming. Young solar systems are typically characterized by a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mnn.com\/earth-matters\/space\/stories\/heres-every-known-piece-of-space-debris-orbiting-earth\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">messy field of debris<\/a>, which eventually coalesces into a system of planets as the star&#8217;s gravity molds and shapes them. But KIC 8462852 is not a young star. A field of dust surrounding a young star would give off infrared light, and excess infrared light is not observed here.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe\u2019d never seen anything like this star,\u201d explained Tabetha Boyajian, a postdoc at Yale. \u201cIt was really weird. We thought it might be bad data or movement on the spacecraft, but everything checked out.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>It should be reiterated that this mess of objects is irregularly shaped. It&#8217;s not something that should form naturally, not given a sufficient amount of time, anyway. So it&#8217;s likely that it was deposited there recently, because otherwise such a field of objects would have been shaped into a more regular pattern or swallowed up by the star&#8217;s gravitational field by now.<\/p>\n<p>So what is it? Scientists have considered a number of scenarios, from instrument defects, to an <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mnn.com\/earth-matters\/space\/photos\/8-asteroids-in-our-solar-system\/meet-the-neighbors#top-desktop\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">asteroid belt<\/a> pileup, to planets crashing into one another. But at this juncture the list of possible explanations has been narrowed to two. First, it&#8217;s possible that the debris field could be a sea of comets, recently yanked inward into the solar system by the gravity of another close-passing star. This sort of event would represent an extraordinary coincidence, though \u2014 a rare event, one not observed in any other star ever observed.<\/p>\n<p>The second possibility that can&#8217;t be ruled out is a wild one, an explanation that scientists don&#8217;t put forward lightly. It&#8217;s possible that there is no natural explanation for the objects circling KIC 8462852 at all. It&#8217;s possible they are alien.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Makes me think of the dude that looks like a Centauri off of Babylon 5 and how much I want to throw something at the screen when he&#8217;s on. About all those shows are good for is getting ideas for SF stories.<\/p>\n<p>Look, guys. Lemme give y&#8217;all a f&#8217;r-instance. Last night I had to comment and make corrections on someone else&#8217;s Facebook post, because the person was saying that the &#8220;new&#8221; coronal hole was a hole straight into the core of the Sun, and the solar wind from it was going to blast our atmosphere from pole to pole (not just AT the poles) and create all this horrid radiation. And it was getting shared fairly widely.<\/p>\n<p>The LAST thing I look forward to is handling the misinformation caused by the complete distortion of an astronomical paper by the mainstream media. They do plenty enough of that in meteorology\/climate research as it is. And yes, I HAVE already been dealing with it, starting along about Tuesday or Wednesday, when the first article came out.<br \/><strong>Stephanie Osborn<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>&#8220;The Interstellar Woman of Mystery&#8221;<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n<p>From: engineer<br \/>Subject: Re: Wow<\/p>\n<p>Sounds like how much I love the Chariots of the Gods on the history channel. It makes me smile but it also makes me think.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<hr align=\"center\" size=\"3\" width=\"100%\">\n<p><b><\/b><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><b>From: <\/b>&#8220;Stephanie&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><b>Subject: <\/b>RE: Wow<\/p>\n<p>that&#8217;s exactly what we&#8217;ve been talking about, and it&#8217;s pretty much impossible. But every last media report has had something along that line for a headline. Tiny fractions of a percent probability that it is alien tech of ANY sort, next to impossible for it to be a Dyson sphere because it takes more material than is found in a planetary system (outside the star itself) to build one; most probably an accretion disk of some sort. But wow! Let&#8217;s make people read us! We&#8217;ll make the headline be about aliens! SMH. Shades of The History Channel.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Stephanie Osborn<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>&#8220;The Interstellar Woman of Mystery&#8221;<\/strong><br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.stephanie-osborn.com\/\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>http:\/\/www.Stephanie-Osborn.com<\/strong><\/a><strong> <\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>And there, I think, we have about all we\u2019re going to know about this for from months to years. I got to thinking about it: is it easier to make a Dyson sphere or Ringworld than to travel to another star?<\/p>\n<p>The reason I ask that is that this is the only Dyson Sphere we\u2019ve observed even if you assume that\u2019s what we see. Yet what is the probability that such a thing was built recently? Isn\u2019t it likely that if you can build one, you\u2019d build a lot of them? You\u2019ve had millions of years to do that. The probability that you invented it in the last couple of thousands of years is infinitesimal.<\/p>\n<p>On the other hand, if you can go star faring, would you build a Dyson Sphere at all? And if you can\u2019t, where did you get all that mass to build it out of? Maybe your sun used to have a companion you could just get to and start taking it apart, and you\u2019re not done yet? But then I\u2019m a science fiction writer. This looks like a job for Niven and Benford\u2026<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m enjoying this, but I am not sure where it leads<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>dyson sphere dilemma&nbsp; <br \/>Dr. Pournelle;<br \/>Your comment that finding only ONE dyson sphere seemed a bit odd, that any super-civilization capable of making such a beastie would probably make many, seems, unsurprisingly, spot-on. However, would it not be difficult to detect a fully enclosed dyson sphere? Might there be hundreds or even thousands of them littered throughout space and they are simply too faint of an infrared signature to see? The star in the news recently might just be the only UNFINISHED dyson sphere floating around.<br \/>Speculating gleefully,<br \/>Eric Gilmer<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Gleefully indeed; and of course I don\u2019t know.<\/p>\n <p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26270 noborder\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/bubbles.gif\" alt=\"bubbles\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" style:\"border='0';box-shadow:none;\"  \/><\/p> \n<blockquote>\n<p>Google Book Scanning Ruled Fair Use <br \/>Appeals court rules that Google book scanning is fair use.<br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/arstechnica.com\/tech-policy\/2015\/10\/appeals-court-rules-that-google-book-scanning-is-fair-use\/\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/arstechnica.com\/tech-policy\/2015\/10\/appeals-court-rules-that-google-book-scanning-is-fair-use\/<\/a><br \/>You probably have seen this 100 times already. I look forward to your comments.<br \/>My $0.0000002 (inflation!)<br \/>Just as Apple&#8217;s iTunes Match program brought in otherwise unrecoverable money from people who pirated music for years, I think having out of print materials available in Google searches can bring in (at least some) money to writers of otherwise lost works. Sell advertising against the searches and Google Ads in the display of the text, hand 70% to the writer. (just a suggestion on how it could work)<br \/>Les<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>This is just out; there is a lot of discussion in author associations about it. Nothing urgent.<\/p>\n <p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26270 noborder\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/bubbles.gif\" alt=\"bubbles\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" style:\"border='0';box-shadow:none;\"  \/><\/p> \n<blockquote>\n<h3>U.S. confirms Iran tested nuclear-capable ballistic missile<\/h3>\n<p>The United States has confirmed that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.reuters.com\/places\/iran\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Iran<\/a> tested a medium-range missile capable of delivering a nuclear weapon, in &#8220;clear violation&#8221; of a United Nations Security Council ban on ballistic missile tests, a senior U.S. official said on Friday.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The United States is deeply concerned about Iran&#8217;s recent ballistic missile launch,&#8221; U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Samantha Power said in a statement.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;After reviewing the available information, we can confirm that Iran launched on Oct. 10 a medium-range ballistic missile inherently capable of delivering a nuclear weapon,&#8221; she said. &#8220;This was a clear violation of U.N. Security Council Resolution 1929.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><strong>SEE MORE: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.aol.com\/article\/2015\/10\/12\/iran-says-washington-post-reporter-jason-rezaian-convicted\/21247887\/\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Iran says Washington Post reporter Jason Rezaian convicted<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The United States is preparing a report on the incident for the Security Council&#8217;s IranSanctions Committee and will raise the matter directly with Security Council members &#8220;in the coming days,&#8221; Power said.<\/p>\n<p>Council diplomats have told Reuters it was possible to sanction additional Iranian individuals or entities by adding them to an existing U.N. blacklist. However, they noted that Russia and China, which have opposed the sanctions on Iran&#8217;s missile program, might block any such moves.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The Security Council prohibition on Iran&#8217;s ballistic missile activities, as well as the arms embargo, remain in place,&#8221; Power said. &#8220;We will continue to press the Security Council for an appropriate response to Iran&#8217;s disregard for its international obligations.&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Surprised?<\/p>\n <p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26270 noborder\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/bubbles.gif\" alt=\"bubbles\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" style:\"border='0';box-shadow:none;\"  \/><\/p> \n<blockquote>\n<p>algae for the poor <br \/>Dr. Pournelle,<br \/>Soylent green isn&#8217;t people (yet):<br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/nannofood.com\/\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/nannofood.com\/<\/a><br \/>-d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>We feed it to astronauts. And I\u2019d rather eat green slime than my boots<\/p>\n <p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26270 noborder\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/bubbles.gif\" alt=\"bubbles\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" style:\"border='0';box-shadow:none;\"  \/><\/p> \n<blockquote>\n<p>: Drone Assassination Leak<\/p>\n<p>We have more Snowdenesque disclosures; these concern the drone assassination program. The disclosures seem to include information about JSOC and TF 48-4. I see nothing new or eye opening, but I&#8217;ve researched these programs run by CIA and JSOC for several years and I&#8217;m as about as surprised as I was by the Snowden disclosures &#8212; I wasn&#8217;t.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/theintercept.com\/drone-papers\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">https:\/\/theintercept.com\/drone-papers<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u25ca \u25ca \u25ca \u25ca \u25ca<\/p>\n<p>Most Respectfully,<\/p>\n<p>Joshua Jordan, KSC<\/p>\n<p>Percussa Resurgo<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n <p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26270 noborder\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/bubbles.gif\" alt=\"bubbles\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" style:\"border='0';box-shadow:none;\"  \/><\/p> \n<blockquote>\n<p>&#8220;Without answers to these fundamental questions, the Air Force nuclear enterprise remains on the same trajectory as it has been for the last two decades &#8211; in ever-increasing decline.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&lt;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/us\/2014\/12\/20\/air-force-admits-nuclear-flaws-faces-uncertain-path-to-remedying\/\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/us\/2014\/12\/20\/air-force-admits-nuclear-flaws-faces-uncertain-path-to-remedying\/<\/a>&gt;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;If the practice continues to be to demand that the troops compensate for manpower and skill shortfalls, operate in inferior facilities and perform with failing support equipment, there is high risk of failure.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&lt;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.ap.org\/Content\/AP-In-The-News\/2014\/Why-Nukes-Keep-Finding-Trouble-Theyre-Really-Old\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.ap.org\/Content\/AP-In-The-News\/2014\/Why-Nukes-Keep-Finding-Trouble-Theyre-Really-Old<\/a>&gt;<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<\/p>\n<p>Roland Dobbins<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Both articles are very much worth reading. Overseas adventures are possible only if the nation is secure. We still live in a nuclear age, and there are those who believe that End Times are worth bringing about.<\/p>\n <p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26270 noborder\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/bubbles.gif\" alt=\"bubbles\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" style:\"border='0';box-shadow:none;\"  \/><\/p> \n<blockquote>\n<p>Income Inequality: New problem, the rich get better breakfast sandwiches buffy willow<\/p>\n<p>I read your post about income inequality yesterday evening. Excellent. I had read an &#8220;article&#8221; earlier in the day about the new serious problem, inequality of breakfast sandwiches. It is in the Washington Post, and titled &#8220;Inequality in Everything: The Rich get Better Breakfast Sandwiches, too.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Link, should you care to click: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/news\/wonkblog\/wp\/2015\/10\/13\/inequality-in-everything-the-rich-get-better-breakfast-sandwiches-too\/\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Inequality in everything: The rich get better breakfast sandwiches, too<\/a><\/p>\n<table cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\" border=\"0\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"1\"><\/td>\n<td width=\"210\">\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/news\/wonkblog\/wp\/2015\/10\/13\/inequality-in-everything-the-rich-get-better-breakfast-sandwiches-too\/\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"clip_image002\" style=\"background-image: none; margin: 0px; display: inline\" border=\"0\" alt=\"clip_image002\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/clip_image0025.jpg\" width=\"214\" height=\"214\"><\/a><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<td width=\"1\"><\/td>\n<td width=\"18\"><\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td width=\"25\"><\/td>\n<td width=\"1\"><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"100%\">\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/news\/wonkblog\/wp\/2015\/10\/13\/inequality-in-everything-the-rich-get-better-breakfast-sandwiches-too\/\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Inequality in everything: The rich get better breakfast &#8230;<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Things are getting a little awkward.<\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/news\/wonkblog\/wp\/2015\/10\/13\/inequality-in-everything-the-rich-get-better-breakfast-sandwiches-too\/\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">View on <b>www.washingtonpost&#8230;<\/b><\/a><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<td width=\"125\">\n<p>Preview by Yahoo<\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"1\"><\/td>\n<td width=\"210\"><\/td>\n<td width=\"1\"><\/td>\n<td width=\"5\"><\/td>\n<td width=\"200\"><\/td>\n<td width=\"139\"><\/td>\n<td width=\"7\"><\/td>\n<td width=\"1\"><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>Well. My first thought was that it was a satirical article. But, alas, apparently not. I am stunned, and quite depressed, that there are people who can even conceive of such a thing, make it a problem and that a paper generally recognized as a major news outlet would print it. We are in a stage in our society where reality sounds like satire, and satire is mistaken for reality.<\/p>\n<p>Better sandwiches, in my humble opinion, means that many people can afford a better meal than can be had at McDonalds, and that enterprising entrepreneurs are more than happy to provide them. Does this not help the economy just a bit? What&#8217;s wrong with having choices, and being free to make those choices, and having a little disposable income to allow one to make different choices? Apparently, we are all (except the elite rulers who will tell us what our choices are) to live in a gray and drab completely equal existence. Heaven forfend that some of us might be able to enjoy some nicer things as a result of our labors and decisions.<\/p>\n<p>I very much agree with your points regarding income inequalities, and counting our blessings: <i>Yes, there are income discrepancies, and vast inequalities; but perhaps we should once in a while count our blessings, and contemplate the requirements of keeping what we have, and adding to the real opportunities we all are given, rather than resenting what we don\u2019t have and the rich can afford.<\/i><\/p>\n<p>I, too, have an example of the blessings of technology. I noticed a distortion in the vision of my left eye last summer, and visited my optometrist very shortly after. He referred me to a retianal specialist, we saw me two days later. I have a condition that was untreatable 10 years ago, and I would have lost my vision in that eye. However, it was fairly easily treated and I have no discernable effect to my vision. A blessing, indeed.<\/p>\n<p>Cheri Rohrer<\/p>\n<p>&gt;Pleasant Hill, California<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>The possibility that we can all get richer without inequality in income has not been demonstrated.<\/p>\n <p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26270 noborder\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/bubbles.gif\" alt=\"bubbles\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" style:\"border='0';box-shadow:none;\"  \/><\/p> \n<blockquote>\n<p>Jerry<\/p>\n<p>Bill Whittle: It&#8217;s the steel<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=jwLjFm6GMBM\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=jwLjFm6GMBM<\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n <p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26270 noborder\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/bubbles.gif\" alt=\"bubbles\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" style:\"border='0';box-shadow:none;\"  \/><\/p> \n<blockquote>\n<p>re: 5TB drives used in disk <br \/>re: your comment of &#8220;Wow!&#8221; with respect to 5TB drives to be used in a RAID disk system.<br \/>Something to consider (that often isn&#8217;t) is the RAID rebuild time of a failed drive. a 5TB drive in a RAID[anything] would take a LONG, LONG time. I prefer smaller 1-2TB drives particularly in a small office or home system for just that reason. <br \/>Just my opinion, but borne out by many hours spent in a computer room waiting for rebuilds to complete.<br \/>.bp<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>All true, and thanks.<\/p>\n <p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26270 noborder\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/bubbles.gif\" alt=\"bubbles\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" style:\"border='0';box-shadow:none;\"  \/><\/p> \n<blockquote>\n<p>Inside Saturn V in cross sections<\/p>\n<p>Dear Jerry:<\/p>\n<p>In your InfoWorld column for 9\/17\/1990, you described the &#8220;&#8230; Saturn V rocket, the most powerful machine ever built, set on its side as a lawn ornament for the NASA Johnson Space Center in Houston.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/books.google.com\/books?id=LDwEAAAAMBAJ&amp;lpg=PT61&amp;ots=9R2gy4PCJJ&amp;dq=pournelle+lawn+ornament+infoworld&amp;pg=PT61&amp;hl=en#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">https:\/\/books.google.com\/books?id=LDwEAAAAMBAJ&amp;lpg=PT61&amp;ots=9R2gy4PCJJ&amp;dq=pournelle+lawn+ornament+infoworld&amp;pg=PT61&amp;hl=en#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Especially your younger readers might like to see the glory that was the Saturn V in these beautiful cross section drawings.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/i.imgur.com\/NAok3jp.jpg\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/i.imgur.com\/NAok3jp.jpg<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Best regards,<\/p>\n<p>&#8211;Harry M.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n <p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26270 noborder\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/bubbles.gif\" alt=\"bubbles\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" style:\"border='0';box-shadow:none;\"  \/><\/p> \n<blockquote>\n<p><b>:<\/b> Even more Syria<\/p>\n<p>Dear Dr. Pournelle,&nbsp; <br \/>What road was it good intentions was a paving material for? <br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/world\/did-us-weapons-supplied-to-syrian-rebels-draw-russia-into-the-conflict\/2015\/10\/11\/268ce566-6dfc-11e5-91eb-27ad15c2b723_story.html\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/world\/did-us-weapons-supplied-to-syrian-rebels-draw-russia-into-the-conflict\/2015\/10\/11\/268ce566-6dfc-11e5-91eb-27ad15c2b723_story.html<\/a><br \/>So the US has been supplying anti-Assad rebels with weaponry &#8212; but NOT enough to win.&nbsp; I quote: <br \/>&#8220;The plan, as described by administration officials, was to exert sufficient military pressure on Assad\u2019s forces to persuade him to compromise \u2014 but not so much that his government would precipitously collapse and leave a dangerous power vacuum in Damascus.&#8221;<br \/>&#8230;<br \/>Does anyone in the administration realize that insurgency is not a cake that you bake at just the right temperature? That a dictator who will almost certainly be hung for war crimes is not going to &#8220;negotiate&#8221; any kind of exit unless he is compelled to leave with overwhelming military force?&nbsp;&nbsp; And that , so long as he can call on Iran and Russia, it is going to be very hard to develop and project that level of force?&nbsp; <br \/>As it is, think of this like a poker game:&nbsp; The Americans raised the stakes by pushing TOW missiles onto the board. They expected (I don&#8217;t know why) Assad to fold. Instead, he went to his friends and raised the stakes himself with direct Russian military intervention. <br \/>So what&#8217;s the next step? Call or fold?&nbsp; <br \/>Regardless, we have officially stepped into a time warp and are engaged in a proxy war with Russia, to the extent that weapons WE supply are being used to kill Russians. And if we continue to supply weapons, knowing that is going to happen , that will make the current accidental proxy war a deliberate one.&nbsp; <br \/>Whose imbecilic idea was it to get us into a shooting war with the Russians, anyway?&nbsp; <br \/>I am utterly flabberghasted. This sort of consequence should be obvious to any academy graduate. Heck, if you just ask a teenager who has played Civilization 5.&nbsp; What the devil do we have a Joint Staff for, if they are willing to approve a plan like this, as opposed to resigning en masse?<\/p>\n<p>Respectfully,<\/p>\n<p>Brian P.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>The Commander in Chief approves it\u2026<\/p>\n <p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26270 noborder\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/bubbles.gif\" alt=\"bubbles\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" style:\"border='0';box-shadow:none;\"  \/><\/p> \n<blockquote>\n<p>\u201cThe bottom line was that there would be a supernova close enough to the Earth to drastically affect the ozone layer about once every billion years.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>&lt;<a href=\"http:\/\/nautil.us\/issue\/22\/slow\/the-secret-history-of-the-supernova-at-the-bottom-of-the-sea\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/nautil.us\/issue\/22\/slow\/the-secret-history-of-the-supernova-at-the-bottom-of-the-sea<\/a>&gt;<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<\/p>\n<p>Roland Dobbins<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n <p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26270 noborder\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/bubbles.gif\" alt=\"bubbles\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" style:\"border='0';box-shadow:none;\"  \/><\/p> \n<blockquote>\n<p>So, &#8216;global warming&#8217; will cause the next ice age, which will then cause more &#8216;global warming&#8217;.<\/p>\n<p>&lt;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/news\/morning-mix\/wp\/2015\/10\/12\/were-closer-to-a-day-after-tomorrow-ice-age-than-we-thought\/\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/news\/morning-mix\/wp\/2015\/10\/12\/were-closer-to-a-day-after-tomorrow-ice-age-than-we-thought\/<\/a>&gt;<\/p>\n<p>Sounds a lot like . . . I don&#8217;t know, variations in solar output, vulcanism, and albedo over time?<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<\/p>\n<p>Roland Dobbins<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n <p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26270 noborder\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/bubbles.gif\" alt=\"bubbles\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" style:\"border='0';box-shadow:none;\"  \/><\/p> \n<p>And if you still haven\u2019t had enough about the Dyson Sphere:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>From Hot Air: <a href=\"http:\/\/hotair.com\/archives\/2015\/10\/15\/by-the-way-scientists-might-have-discovered-a-gigantic-alien-megastructure-in-deep-space\/\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/hotair.com\/archives\/2015\/10\/15\/by-the-way-scientists-might-have-discovered-a-gigantic-alien-megastructure-in-deep-space\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>By the way, scientists might have discovered a gigantic alien megastructure in deep space<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>posted at 10:01 pm on October 15, 2015 by Allahpundit<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Just a little news tidbit I thought I\u2019d slip in between the more important stuff, like <a href=\"http:\/\/hotair.com\/archives\/2015\/10\/15\/jeb-bush-raises-13-million-in-third-quarter-but-now-has-less-cash-on-hand-than-ted-cruz\/\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Jeb Bush\u2019s third-quarter fundraising haul<\/a> and whether that aunt who sued her nephew <a href=\"http:\/\/hotair.com\/archives\/2015\/10\/15\/auntie-christ-and-nephew-speak-weve-got-nothing-but-love-for-each-other\/\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">has hugged it out with him yet<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>You are much, much better off using the time you\u2019d devote to reading this post to reading someone else\u2019s far more intelligent treatment of the subject instead. In particular, I\u2019d recommend <a href=\"http:\/\/www.slate.com\/blogs\/bad_astronomy\/2015\/10\/14\/weird_star_strange_dips_in_brightness_are_a_bit_baffling.html\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Slate<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/science\/archive\/2015\/10\/the-most-interesting-star-in-our-galaxy\/410023\/\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">The Atlantic<\/a>, and, for a more skeptical view, the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.newscientist.com\/article\/dn28191-citizen-scientists-catch-cloud-of-comets-orbiting-distant-star\/\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">New Scientist<\/a>. Since clicking a link is too much effort for some readers, though, here\u2019s the bottom line. A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away (actually, it\u2019s our galaxy, but whatever), roughly <a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/news\/morning-mix\/wp\/2015\/10\/15\/the-strange-star-that-has-serious-scientists-talking-about-an-alien-megastructure\/\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">1,481 light years from Earth<\/a>, something strange started happening to a star known as KIC 8462852. You can\u2019t see it with your naked eye; we know it exists only because the Kepler Space Telescope picked up the light coming from it, along with light from many thousands of other stars. One way astronomers can tell if there are planets orbiting a distant star is by tracking the brightness of the light the star emits. If a star\u2019s light dims a tiny bit at regular intervals, that\u2019s evidence that something is passing between it and the telescope. For a star the size of KIC 8462852, which is around one and a half times as big as our own sun, having a planet the size of Jupiter pass in front of it should dim the light by around one percent.<\/p>\n<p>Since scientists began watching KIC 8462852, they\u2019ve found that its light does dim \u2014 but not at regular intervals. And it doesn\u2019t dim by one percent. It dims by \u2026 15 percent. And 22 percent. The dimming doesn\u2019t happen symmetrically, with a slight, gradual fade followed by a slight, gradual brightening. It can dim slowly and then rapidly brighten. Per Slate, \u201cThere\u2019s also an apparent change in brightness that seems to go up and down roughly every 20 days for weeks, then disappears completely.\u201d This is not the way stars normally behave. In fact, after having looked at thousands of other stars captured by the Kepler, this is the <i>only<\/i> star known to astronomers to behave this way. They\u2019ve rechecked their data to see if there\u2019s an error in the math or some sort of flaw in the lens, but if there were, you would expect to see the same sort of error in other stars\u2019 measurements. Again: This is the only star that seems to operate this way.<\/p>\n<p>One possibility is that it\u2019s a young star, (relatively) recently formed, with lots of dust and debris still circling around it in the aftermath. That would explain the irregular dimming \u2014 except that the dust that surrounds young stars typically leaves a signature of infrared light, and KIC 8462852 doesn\u2019t have that. Same goes for the idea of a nearby planetary collision. Lots of dust should mean lots of infrared reflections, but KIC 8462852 is emitting just the right amount of infrared light you\u2019d expect from a normal star its size. The working hypothesis for now on what\u2019s behind the strange dimming phenomenon is that it\u2019s actually an enormous swarm of comets that were somehow sucked towards the star, possibly by the gravitational pull of another nearby star in transit, and are now burning off like fireworks all around it. That would explain the irregular, unpredictable dimming coupled with the lack of elevated infrared. The New Scientist explains:<\/p>\n<p>Having worked through the other possibilities, the team concluded the most likely explanation is a family of exocomets that veered close to the star and were broken up by its gravity, producing huge amounts of dust and gas in the process. If the comets are on an eccentric orbit passing in front of the star every 700 days or so, further breaking up and spreading out as they go, that could explain all the dips in the data.<\/p>\n<p>KIC 8462852 is about 50 per cent larger than our sun, so if this comet explanation is correct, the dust cloud would be pretty big. It would be an impressive sight up close, says Boyajian. Something that size in our solar system would blot out a significant amount of sunlight. When Earth passes through the debris clouds left in interplanetary space by passing comets, we get meteor showers. There\u2019s no evidence of a planet in the KIC 8462852 system, but someone standing on such a world as it passed through the dust cloud would see quite a light show, says Boyajian. \u201cThe scale of the meteor shower would be huge, like cosmic-scale fireworks.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s where a more intelligent commentator would be useful because I don\u2019t understand why the dust generated by an enormous storm of comets disintegrating around the star wouldn\u2019t also generate an elevated infrared reading. I\u2019m also having trouble conceptualizing the scope of a storm that could dim the light of the star by 22 percent when a mass the size of Jupiter could only manage one percent. And scientists have another problem with the theory: It seems remarkably coincidental that KIC 8462852 would be in the process of devouring a massive comet cluster just at the moment that we happened to point our telescope at it \u2014 the blink of an eye cosmically. How long would the heat and gravity from the star realistically take to suck a belt of comets into it? And we somehow caught that on the Kepler, in progress, in the few years that the telescope was functioning properly? That\u2019s some luck.<\/p>\n<p>Which brings us to the other theory. The Atlantic:<\/p>\n<p>Jason Wright, an astronomer from Penn State University, is set to publish an alternative interpretation of the light pattern. SETI researchers have long suggested that we might be able to detect distant extraterrestrial civilizations, by looking for enormous technological artifacts orbiting other stars. Wright and his co-authors say the unusual star\u2019s light pattern is consistent with a \u201cswarm of megastructures,\u201d perhaps stellar-light collectors, technology designed to catch energy from the star.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhen [Boyajian] showed me the data, I was fascinated by how crazy it looked,\u201d Wright told me. \u201cAliens should always be the very last hypothesis you consider, but this looked like something you would expect an alien civilization to build.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The theory, in other words, is that the energy from KIC 8462852 is being harnessed by some sort of planetary-sized structure of solar panels or something akin to that \u2014 a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/news\/morning-mix\/wp\/2015\/10\/15\/the-strange-star-that-has-serious-scientists-talking-about-an-alien-megastructure\/\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cDyson sphere,\u201d<\/a> named after Freeman Dyson, who imagined that alien civilizations would figure out a way to satisfy their energy needs by milking local stars for it. A star\u2019s just a big nuclear reactor, right? Might as well hook up some power lines to it and enjoy the juice. How a Dyson sphere would explain the data from this star isn\u2019t clear to me, except as the end of a \u201cno other theory works\u201d process of elimination. Any sort of technology we can imagine, however massive, that\u2019s pumping energy from KIC 8462852 would be in orbit around it, no? That means, I would think, that we should be seeing regular dimming intervals, not irregular ones, as the Dyson sphere transits around the star. The answer to that, I guess, is that maybe the dimming isn\u2019t the product of a shadow passing in front of the star but the star itself actually temporarily losing luster as energy is drained from it, like the lightbulbs in a home momentarily dimming when there\u2019s a sudden surge of demand on the grid. That\u2019s hard to conceptualize too, but that\u2019s the beauty of this theory, I guess. Whatever\u2019s happening is so freaky deaky weird that you can indulge whatever flight of fancy you like in imagining how this technology would work. Who knows? Maybe it\u2019s a giant Death Star and dims whenever it\u2019s firing at Alderaan or whatever the aliens\u2019 latest target is.<\/p>\n<p>The Kepler telescope no longer works so astronomers don\u2019t know what\u2019s been happening with KIC 8462852 lately. The next step now is to point a giant antenna at the star and see if any unusual radio signals come back. If they do, hoo boy.<\/p>\n<p>Blair Shorney<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p align=\"center\"> <p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26270 noborder\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/bubbles.gif\" alt=\"bubbles\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" style:\"border='0';box-shadow:none;\"  \/><\/p> <\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"> <p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26270 noborder\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/bubbles.gif\" alt=\"bubbles\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" style:\"border='0';box-shadow:none;\"  \/><\/p> <\/p>\n<p align=\"center\">Freedom is not free. Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free.<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"> <p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26270 noborder\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/bubbles.gif\" alt=\"bubbles\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" style:\"border='0';box-shadow:none;\"  \/><\/p> <\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/clip_image0041.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"clip_image004\" style=\"background-image: none; display: inline\" border=\"0\" alt=\"clip_image004\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/clip_image004_thumb.jpg\" width=\"244\" height=\"10\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"> <p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26270 noborder\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/bubbles.gif\" alt=\"bubbles\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" style:\"border='0';box-shadow:none;\"  \/><\/p> <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Chaos Manor View, Friday, October 16, 2015 I\u2019ve been overwhelmed with stuff, all urgent in the sense that it can\u2019t be ignored. And now it\u2019s past time for lunch. The Dyson\u2019s Sphere speculation is fun, but hardly urgent\u2026 Dyson Sphere on Space? While it&#8217;s still too early to tell, and \u2026 <a class=\"continue-reading-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/dyson-spheres-and-other-important-matters\/\"> Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr; <\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-26846","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-view"],"post_mailing_queue_ids":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/26846","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=26846"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/26846\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=26846"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=26846"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=26846"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}