{"id":26282,"date":"2015-07-23T00:01:04","date_gmt":"2015-07-23T07:01:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/?p=26282"},"modified":"2015-07-23T10:29:01","modified_gmt":"2015-07-23T17:29:01","slug":"history-and-iran-fiction-mode","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/history-and-iran-fiction-mode\/","title":{"rendered":"History and Iran; Fiction mode."},"content":{"rendered":"<p align=\"center\">Chaos Manor View, Wednesday, July 22, 2015<\/p>\n <p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26270 noborder\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/bubbles.gif\" alt=\"bubbles\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" style:\"border='0';box-shadow:none;\"  \/><\/p> \n<p><\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m in novel writing mode now, which means that for a few days I will have less time for this page and Chaos Manor Reviews; but Chaos Manor Reviews will generally have something computerish, and I\u2019ll try to keep this place going; and it won\u2019t be that long.<br \/>We had a good Wednesday story conference including Skyping Dr. Jack Cohen in England, and one thing it indicated is that we\u2019ve come to a part in the opening of the book that needs me; technical stuff mostly, and fitting it into dialogue and action scenes so you don\u2019t get lumps in the stew; the sort of stuff I used to turn out fairly quickly, but it seems to go slowly now because my typing is so bad. I am not able to touch type at all. The good news is that I am getting better at two finger; but, alas, that means I have to look at the keyboard and not the screen. Then when I look up I see the silly mistakes I have made, and have to go about fixing them. It\u2019s slow; but it\u2019s faster than typing on a Selectric and we wrote quite a lot, including <i>The Mote in God\u2019s Eye<\/i> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Mote-Gods-Eye-Larry-Niven\/dp\/0671741926\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Mote-Gods-Eye-Larry-Niven\/dp\/0671741926<\/a> on typewriters, and Mote still holds up (and sells pretty well, too; if you haven\u2019t read it, you will probably like it a lot).<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, that\u2019s the way things are. I also learn that all my little ornaments each open a new file, and those add up, so I\u2019m trying to get a new scheme to put in the little gold bubbles a different way. We\u2019ll see.<\/p>\n <p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26270 noborder\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/bubbles.gif\" alt=\"bubbles\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" style:\"border='0';box-shadow:none;\"  \/><\/p> \n<p>I need to comment at length on the Iran \u201cdeal\u201d, but it is sort of pointless: it\u2019s pretty well a done deal. Mr. Obama has made that clear. He\u2019s in this all the way.<\/p>\n<p>As to why, unless you assume deliberate malice on his part, he must be assuming that he\u2019ll win the Persians around to his way of thinking: we are showing trust and good faith, and we expect that in return; after which we will both be better off. After all, we\u2019re not on a war course with Iran, but they can\u2019t know this because we sent an invading army into Iraq. Jihadists don\u2019t blow up Brazilian airplanes and civilians. Treat Persia right and they\u2019ll stop holding Death To America parades, and the world will be a better place.<\/p>\n<p>We tried force, and CIA operations and such; give peace a chance. And of course he is President and it\u2019s pretty well his call.<\/p>\n<p>I do point out that in the early 1500\u2019s, a sophisticated Prince, Suleiman, later called Suleiman the Magnificent, became Sultan of Turkey; It was thought by many of the European leadership that this was a man you could do business with, and many set their policies to accommodate that assumptiuon.<\/p>\n<p>Islamic scholars were just completing new editions of the Koran and the Hadith (Sayings of the Prophet), and the plain language laid upon the Leader of Islam the duty to bring the entire world under submission; there could be truces with the infidels, but peace with them is forbidden by the black letter law of the text. But there are black letter commandments in the Bible, particularly the Old Testament that were no longer taken seriously (see Jonathon Swift on that 200 years later); surely Suleiman would be a reasonable man.., Of course he was not, and in 1529 marched to besiege Vienna after taken much of the Balkans and starting feuds there that continue to this day. His siege was not successful, although it could have been; it was a near thing, actually. And the campaign was undertaken at considerable cost, both economically and to his prestige. Fortunately his rule was tempered by the loss of his genius advisor and his oldest son to palace intrigues and the Ukrainian\/Polish girl known as Roxelana, but that\u2019s another story. So are the Ayatollahs ruling Iran, and the Sunni\/Shia conflict continues.<\/p>\n<p>I do not think Mr. Obama  has the correct appreciation of the situation, but I was not elected President; and under the Constitution we have  only one President.<\/p>\n<p>As to what strategy we adopt if this one does not work, one thing is certain: Iran will have nuclear weapons before we can know.<\/p>\n <p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26270 noborder\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/bubbles.gif\" alt=\"bubbles\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" style:\"border='0';box-shadow:none;\"  \/><\/p> \n<blockquote>\n<p>Still more on automation and jobs <br \/>There is little doubt that, someday, robots will be taking a lot of jobs from people. Whether that will be in five years or fifty cannot be determined with certainty until after it has happened. It is however true that, right now (which is where we are on the time-line), truck drivers are not seeing their wages fall because self-driving trucks are taking their jobs from them. Right now, much of the talk of automation taking jobs is clearly a smoke screen designed to obscure the real reason that current wages are stagnant or falling.<br \/>However, there is another angle to automation that I think people have missed. It&#8217;s possible that, at least under some conditions, robots could simply be a stealthy means of offshoring jobs to low-wage countries that have, until recently, been hard to offshore!<br \/>For example, there is a company that makes robotic floor cleaners for large establishments. These floor cleaners are only competitive when wages for that class of labor are over ten dollars an hour. Obviously the businesses would be even happier employing human labor at a dollar an hour &#8211; that would be cheaper than using robots (for now). <br \/>But here&#8217;s the thing: these robots are, I believe, largely assembled by hand in places like Vietnam where wages are a dollar an hour or less! <br \/>So here&#8217;s the thing: what if the total amount of human labor saved by these cleaning robots is equal to the total amount of overseas human labor required to assemble the robots (and their spare parts etc) in the first place? In this case we haven&#8217;t saved any human labor at all &#8211; we&#8217;ve used the robots as a conduit to replace $10\/hr labor with $1\/hr labor! <br \/>Yes I know &#8211; the truth is in the specifics, and in this case would require the kind of careful quantitative analysis that modern jingoistic economists have largely abandoned (&#8216;Anything labeled free trade is always good just because&#8217; etc). Still, something to consider.<\/p>\n<p>TG<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n <p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26270 noborder\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/bubbles.gif\" alt=\"bubbles\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" style:\"border='0';box-shadow:none;\"  \/><\/p> \n<blockquote>\n<p>The problem of &#8216;unemployment&#8217;\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6 <br \/>Dr. Pournell,<br \/>You have hit \u201c glancingly \u201c at the problem.<br \/>The last time industrialization created a surplus of goods-per-working-hour the response of the industrialized world was to simply decrease hours to match. (It is amusing \u00e2\u20ac\u201c but the reduction of factory hours from 60 per week to 40 per week is nearly a match to the reduction of farm laborers. Effectively we got more factory workers but each did less factory work \u00e2\u20ac\u201c and the total volume of factory work hours remained fairly stable.) Why can we not do the same again? Well, one block might be the law\/union homogeny that has demonstrated itself entirely resistant to any shift in the \u00e2\u20ac\u02dceight-hour-day\/five-day-week\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 formula. Another might be the burden of confiscatory taxes \u00e2\u20ac\u201c which have in effect already removed a third of the working hours so far as the worker compensation is concerned. In effect, 1\/3 of the \u00e2\u20ac\u02dcsurplus hours\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 have already been taken away \u00e2\u20ac\u201c just not the work involved. These are both injurious, and annoying, and frustrating\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6 but the stupidity of the master class has been overcome before and can be again. What can NOT be overcome, unfortunately, is the unsuitability for productive action of a fair percentage of the population. The productive cannot lay down a portion of the working day because the unproductive are incapable of picking up the \u00e2\u20ac\u02dcslack\u00e2\u20ac\u2122. [One may, from another angle, view the division as having occurred, if one takes idle dependency as a form of work. Which \u00e2\u20ac\u201c I grant \u00e2\u20ac\u201c as it is paid for \u00e2\u20ac\u201c can be so viewed. Consider the percentage of \u00e2\u20ac\u02dccareer welfare\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 personnel. The numbers are, again, amusingly close.]<br \/>As for solutions? I have none save that of history. The industrial revolution destroyed a fair percentage of the English population. Whatever upheaval cuts off the bread for the charity-dependant class will do the same. This is sad, but hardly a unique event, or one difficult to anticipate in any context save time.<br \/>With respect<br \/>Keryl Kris Reinke<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>When there is little shortage of goods, all is well; it is easy to divide a large pie. Or it is said to be.<\/p>\n <p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26270 noborder\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/bubbles.gif\" alt=\"bubbles\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" style:\"border='0';box-shadow:none;\"  \/><\/p> \n <p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26270 noborder\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/bubbles.gif\" alt=\"bubbles\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" style:\"border='0';box-shadow:none;\"  \/><\/p> \n<p align=\"center\">Freedom is not free. Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free. <\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"> <p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26270 noborder\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/bubbles.gif\" alt=\"bubbles\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" style:\"border='0';box-shadow:none;\"  \/><\/p> <\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/clip_image0042.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"244\" height=\"10\" title=\"clip_image004\" style=\"margin: 0px; display: inline; background-image: none;\" alt=\"clip_image004\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/clip_image004_thumb2.jpg\" border=\"0\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"> <p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26270 noborder\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/bubbles.gif\" alt=\"bubbles\" width=\"240\" height=\"8\" style:\"border='0';box-shadow:none;\"  \/><\/p> <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Chaos Manor View, Wednesday, July 22, 2015 I\u2019m in novel writing mode now, which means that for a few days I will have less time for this page and Chaos Manor Reviews; but Chaos Manor Reviews will generally have something computerish, and I\u2019ll try to keep this place going; and \u2026 <a class=\"continue-reading-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/history-and-iran-fiction-mode\/\"> Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr; <\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-26282","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-view"],"post_mailing_queue_ids":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/26282","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=26282"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/26282\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=26282"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=26282"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=26282"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}