{"id":14949,"date":"2013-08-09T17:43:32","date_gmt":"2013-08-10T00:43:32","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/?p=14949"},"modified":"2013-08-09T23:23:22","modified_gmt":"2013-08-10T06:23:22","slug":"muslim-brotherhood-influence","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.jerrypournelle.com\/chaosmanor\/muslim-brotherhood-influence\/","title":{"rendered":"Muslim Brotherhood Influence?"},"content":{"rendered":"

View 785 Friday, August 09, 2013<\/p>\n

\u201cTransparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency.\u201d<\/p>\n

President Barrack Obama, January 231, 2009<\/p>\n

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I get inputs from many people. <\/p>\n

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Obama, the International President, or maybe he’d do better in Kenya?<\/p>\n

Friends,<\/p>\n

I love it how the Egyptians have seen though Obama’s Arab Spring, deposed the Muslim Brotherhood, and jailed its leader. America can learn a lesson from that.<\/p>\n

It’s a lesson that Obama will likely not heed, however, as his Administration is loaded with high level Muslim Brotherhood agents, including the Weiner Wife — she was Hillary’s deputy chief of staff, her mother is co-founder of the Muslim Sisterhood, and her brother is a high level official in Hamas. There are jihadists in the White House. Valarie Jarrett is Iranian.<\/p>\n

The Media reports Anti-American protests in Egypt. <\/p>\n

Not quite. If you pay close attention, the protests center on Obama and his hated pro-jihadist Ambassador. More disturbing is the recent report that there are also Muslim Brotherhood agents on John McCain’s staff. McCain and Lindsey Graham just visited Cairo on a mission from Obama to have Egypt’s government kiss and make up with Muslim Brotherhood terrorists. Egypt told them to stick it where the sun don\u2019t shine.<\/p>\n

Which prompted Glenn Beck to become horrified as how clueless this pair of Senior Republican Senators was, and a suggestion from Egypt’s government that they should go home and mind their own business. Seems like a good idea to me. A better idea would be to get the RINOs out of office so we can get a select committee with subpoena powers and appropriate clearances working to find the truth about Benghazi. Almost certainly, the Obama Administration was using our tax money to provide weapons to Syria, which, at the time, was ILLEGAL.<\/p>\n

Egypt, a Muslim nation, is telling us that Obama sides with terrorist. Perhaps we should listen.<\/p>\n

This video of a Cairo belly dancer — short and simple — has gone VIRAL. ENJOY!!!<\/p>\n

http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LpAt2nIBpF4<\/a><\/p>\n

Best,<\/p>\n

John<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

I have no confirmation of the pervasiveness of Moslem Brotherhood agents asserted in this. Indeed, it\u2019s the first I have heard of most of it.<\/p>\n

My view of Egypt isn\u2019t unique. I believe the Mamelukes hoped to form an Atat\u00fcrk-like constitutional regime, with a professional military as the guardian of tolerance and of the integrity of the state, specifically the peace with Israel. The business of government would not be their affair, except that the government should provide the military with an adequate budget (actually, simply not intercept the money the United States pays as part of the Israel-Egypt perpetual truce) and leave the military to run its internal affairs. It\u2019s pretty close to the Mameluke regime of old. The Army sees itself as protector of the Egyptian people, not their oppressor, Of course there is corruption \u2013 there always is in timocratic regimes in the real world \u2013 but the model has been known since Platonic times, and political philosophers have considered it a viable government form (but of course none are eternally stable).<\/p>\n

The Mamelukes have taken control because the Muslim Brotherhood grabbed far too much, including power over the Mamelukes \u2013 who have seen what happens to their kind in Turkey which has deconstructed the Atat\u00fcrk state and is going away from secularism toward an Islamic state.<\/p>\n

I suspect that something like the Atat\u00fcrk form of republic is the best Egypt can hope for, and certainly the best the Jewish (almost non-existent now but large at one time), Christian, and secular Egyptian minorities can hope for. I wish them well of it.<\/p>\n

If the President has a favored view of a possible Egyptian future, I am not aware of it and I do not think he has tried to explain it, nor do I think he has much vision regarding the future of *Iraq, Syria, Libya, Tunisia, Jordan, or any other part of the Middle East. Nor do I see anyone in the White House who does. I suspect Mrs. Clinton had more vision than anyone in State or at the White House now; but that\u2019s an opinion for which I don\u2019t have a lot of support. More of a conclusion.<\/p>\n

I can see that there are Muslim Brotherhood influences in US policies, but I don\u2019t assert those are caused by covert MB agents in government. Discussion invited.<\/p>\n

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The court martial trial of Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan drags on, and no one can understand why. The constitution provides a definition of treason \u2013 levying war on the United States \u2013 which certainly fits the action of an armed man shooting military men and women while crying \u201cAllah Akbar!\u201d on a military base. What else could that be but treason? Major Hasan should have been ceremonially stripped of his rank in the presence of representative troops, then either hanged or shot, wheel chair and all, and this done last year. The wounded should get their purple hearts. This was no workplace incident, this was an act of war by a Muslim against the armed forces of the United States of America, and it should be treated as such.<\/p>\n

The actual events, with months of discussion over whether he should have been forcibly shaved and all the other legal wrangling, does not reflect well on the United States.<\/p>\n

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\u201cTransparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency.\u201d<\/p>\n

President Barrack Obama, January 231, 2009<\/p>\n

\u201cDemocracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy that did not commit suicide.\u201d<\/p>\n

John Adams<\/p>\n

The President continues to grant exceptions to the laws passed by Congress, make recess appointments when Congress is not in recess, withhold information about foreign affairs incidents from the Congress, stall on information about who issued the \u2018stand down\u2019 order to the gunships ready to go help the CIA spooks in Benghazi, refuse to give Congress information about the IRS scandal which continues to grow worse and worse, and routinely blocks investigations into the operations of much of the executive branch.<\/p>\n

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If you didn\u2019t see this, you should have.  http:\/\/www.france24.com\/en\/20130623-man-made-particles-lowered-hurricane-frequency-study<\/a><\/p>\n

ditto this:  http:\/\/online.wsj.com\/article\/SB10001424127887323844804578529713576219412.html<\/a><\/p>\n

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