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March 15 - 21, 1999

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Dr. Pournelle:

I have to agree with what you wrote in your latest View, that earlier versions of Windows were a LOT easier to use. In fact, I am still using Workgroups 3.11, with some 32-bit add-in drivers (--sure wish I had the old Helix Multimedia Cloaking drivers, though). I simply do not have the time to suffer through all the types of problems you report. My next OS will most likely be Linux, probably the Caldera distribution of 2.0.2.

Then again ...my local cable TV company is offering Internet access. The uplink is through an ordinary analog modem (for me, this would be my 3Com/USR 56K/x2 external desktop modem). The downlink comes at 512kbps through the cable TV box into my 10mbps Ethernet card.

My and my wife’s computers already talk to each other through such Ethernet cards and a cheap hub. And, I can dial up an ordinary 56K local ISP too. Ah, but how does one arrange so that Netscape (Navigator 3, I’d prefer) talks out through the modem but listens through the Ethernet card?

The cable TV company’s answer is: you must use Windows 9x. Given that, it’s just a few-minute snap to set up. If you use any other OS, they will lease you the cable TV box with RJ-45 jack which provides the downstream Ethernet packets, and issue you an analog dialup password, but they won’t give you a hand setting it up—you’re welcome to try, but you’re on your own.

But I don’t wanna buy into the Windows 9x sw-- ...uh, upgrade cycle. I want to be able to perform the magic using Workgroups. Then, eventually, Linux.

Can someone supply/point me to instructions on how to arrange this? Formerly I was going over an ISDN line to a dialup provider in Germany using Netscape Nav 3 over Workgroups, so I know about things like the FOSSIL emulator, the ISDN packet driver, the settings in Trumpet Winsock, the CAPI drivers, and Com3Protocol=, Com3BufferSize=, netheapsize= and the like in system.ini. My profoundest thanks will go to whoever can guide me to the next higher level. Your M.O. BTW is in my pocket, going in the mail first thing tomorrow AM.

Philip Courier

athyrio@hotmail.com

I am out the door in ten minutes to do stuff, but I bet someone will have you an answer by the time I get back. I wouldn't know how to get Linux working with that, and I would like to.

 

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Tuesday, March 16, 1999

  Greetings!

I’ve just become a new, stunned user of Dragon’s Naturally Speaking (or Naturally Bloated since it sures gobbled up all my free disk space and my 64 Megs of RAM fast enough). One of the first "professional" tasks I’m trying with Dragon is committing a micro-cassette taped interview with a 70-year-old amateur astronomer to text for an upcoming article in our Royal Astronomical Society of Canada / Ottawa Centre’s newsletter (I’m its editor).

I have the micro-cassette recorder output coming into a headset, while the headset’s microphone is going into my sound card and on to the Dragon app. As the fellow I interviewed on the tape speaks into my ear (and the microphone doesn’t pick this up, of course), I paraphrase what he says out loud and Dragon dutifully interprets it into a text window. The results are unbelievable.

As this is the first real attempt to use Dragon, I’m also taking the time to "train" it when it doesn’t understand certain words (especially astronomical terms). If I pronounce properly and speak entire sentences at a time (thus giving Dragon plenty of context to use), the application is just awesome! I did my first run last night and I am completely amazed at how much of the interview I’ve gotten down into text.

I’m only now exploring your "CURRENT VIEW" pages on your website, and I’m amazed at the solid amounts of text you produce each day. I realize you write for a living (my being editor for my Centre’s newsletter is just a part-time, one hairy week-end a month thing), but I wondered if you’ve considered using Dragon to produce the bulk of your writings.

I should do a search of your site to see if you’ve already written about Dragon, and if you have, well, just consider this email as one praising an amazing application (uh, if you have the hardware for it, though)! I, for one, do not mind Intel pushing faster and faster processors on us, for if there’s one app that needs it, with professional uses (to heck with games here), it’s speech recognition. That technology is finally here and available for anyone within reach of a relatively modest motherboard &; CPU upgrade (let’s hope PII prices plummet now with the PIII available)...

Cheers

Francois Kupo

Ottawa, Ontario

I have tried dictating and at my age, I think better typing. I like to see things as I write them and I type about as fast as I think now. I do recommend those programs for people who can use them, and one day I keep hoping I can say "Be a nice girl" or "Igor!" and have the computer respond "Yes, Master," at which point I can say "take a note" and it will do that, filing it in some automatic consecutive file system when I stop. It would be handy when I am doing the log with my hands deep in the bowels of a machine. But for actual writing, I find I can type better than I can talk. Thanks.

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Jerry,

I’m running Outlook 98 with the Internet Mail only option, and have lots of .PST files open. For exactly the reason you want it - in case of a crash of the .PST file.

The "secret" is to go to the File menu, select "New", and drop to the bottom of the menu where it says "Personal Folders File (.pst)". Pick it, create a filename, and then assign a descriptive name to it. These folders will appear below your regular folder lists, as a separate "root" if you want to call it that.

An obvious candidate for this is your "All" folder - put it in a separate .PST file, maybe even on a file server other than your mail PC. And distribute other things as needed. For example, I have a "Correspondence" file, a "Newsletter" file, a "Microsoft Subs" file, etc.

Also, to compress a .PST file, right-click on one of the "roots" of a .PST file (including the very top one for your default folders, and select properties. Go to Advanced, and select "Compact Now". Then go away for a while if your .PST file is 140Mb!

 

Gary M. Berg (Gary_Berg@ibm.net)

So that's how. Thanks. The help files don't help with this! Thanks, I'll rearrange everything now. And this gets in the column. Thanks again.

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Just some data points on outlook.

(I am using the terms "internet mail only" and "workgroup" to describe the two versions of outlook 98. I forget what terms that the installation uses so I will use these ones instead)

(1) the outlook pst file format has been for me a very reliable place to store mail. In hundreds of installations, I have had problems only once, and that was due to a bad sector. Most of the mail was recoverable after running the scanpst utility.

(2) the inbox repair tool is scanpst.exe. It is basically the same utility that has existed since the later ms mail days and win 3.1.

The current scanpst.exe that works with outlook is the same program that got installed with the "exchange client 4.0" that first appeared with the initial version of windows 95. I don’t remember if the program at that time was automatically added to the accessories menu. The outlook 97 installation did add it in.

(3) install the workgroup version of outlook. You won’t regret it (more than you might already do :) I break up my mail files into several files and it is easier to manage that way. Changing from the internet mail only to workgroup should not be a problem.

I have mistakenly in the past installed the internet mail only option and then reran the installation to install the workgroup option. I have not lost my settings. (but I do advice writting down your settings anyways, outlook has lots of other ways to cause you to loose your settings, especially when you are copying profiles; I guess it is an undocumented feature of outlook.)

If you have installed the fax option, that might cause problems when you switch

from internet only to workgroup. You might want to remove it first if you have

it installed. It is not supported under the workgroup edition

(4) I have not found any tools to automate the compacting of PST files. Maybe I have not looked hard enough.

You can initiate the compacting yourself (sorry if you already know this) by right clicking on the PST file, choosing properties, clicking on the advanced button and selecting compact now. This is for 98 workgroup. There is also a button for calculating the folder sizes. I can compare this against the actual size of the PST file to determine how much slack space there is in use.

If this option is not available under the internet only version, it can be

accessed through Start menu, control panel, mail, show profiles, select your

correct profile (you probably have only one), select your personal folder,

properties, compact now

Personally, I find having to do this myself to be a headache. I want the system to handle it automatically... wait, maybe it does? A couple of weeks ago, I moved 150MB of mail out of my 300MB PST file just to see what will happen if I don’t compact the mail file.

My 300MB PST file has actually shrunk to (let me check...) 197MB and it is still shrinking. As new mail is added to the PST file, somehow Outlook has been doing a little bit of housekeeping and compacting the file a little bit each time as new mail is added. I just keep emptying the trash and Outlook keeps doing the rest.

Perhaps you don’t have to worry too much about compacting the PST file then? I now will only do it after deleting a significant portion of the messages from the PST file.

(5) I still like outlook 98 (not 97) in spite of the problems I find with the program. We can fault Microsoft for creating buggy software, but it is hard to fault them for their overall usability.

I hope you find some of this informative.

Paul

Paul Walker [Paul.Walker@ing-barings.com]

I like Outlook and I use it; I mostly fault Microsoft for their lousy help files, since almost none of this is in the help files; at least not where I can find it. Thanks.

 

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I have never had this problem: Can any reader help?

Jerry, I’ve been reading your W98 page related on your site.

I’ve got something to add:

I’ve been spending the last week to install W98 on my system (a P120, 40Mb ram, HD 1,7Gb, S3 Virge DX) without success.

I don’t get any trouble installing it, because it seems it copies all it needs on the hard drive, but when it comes to introducing the installation code, it tells me msgsrv32.exe has caused a fault in pidgen.dll and offers me to kill it.

I do it (‘cause it’s the only thing I can do) and the only thing I earn is a lonely mouse pointer, wandering in an empty desktop.

I tried to format and install almost 10 times.

I tried to copy a msgsrv32.exe and pidgen.dll from a friend’s system.

I tried to install from a backup copy of my cd.

Nothing.

Well, if you’ve found something similar, will you help me?

 

Thanks in advance.

Meotto Auro

Meotto Auro [meotto@cli.di.unipi.it]

As a favor, please, everyone, include your mail address at the bottom of your letter, particularly if you want people to answer your questions! I am not a clerk, and I don't really have time to go find your address from the header and paste it in.

For those who don't know, when you copy mail from Outlook it strips off the header and subject. You can learn how to make my life simpler by going to the MAIL home page and reading up on all that BEFORE you ship mail to me!!

 

There is no 'pidgen' file on my W 98 system. msgsrv32.exe is a 12 KB application in my Windows98 system but it does not appear to be a running process. Pidgen.dll sounds almost like a joke: pidgen is a simplified version of English used as a trade language in the South Pacific, and is one of the official languages of New Caledonia which until recently was a joint French/Australian protectorate. Are you convinced you are not booting with a virus-infected disk? [Answer is below: pidgen revealed.]

And William John West reminds me that the language is spelled pidgin, not pidgen as in P ID generator one suspects.

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Dear Dr. Pournelle,

I’ve just perused www.jerrypournelle.com. It’s really refreshing, lacking the usual banner ads, bandwidth-clogging multimedia and broken .html code one so often encounters on the DEFAULT pages of other web sites. Front Page 98 is a relatively good product, it seems. I found your site from a link off of bugnet.com It was great to learn you never stopped cranking out the Chaos Manor columns, as that was the best part of BYTE.

I am now a "Patron". Do you have any plans to add a search engine to your web site? Does EarthLink host it?

The firm at which I’m employed is an NT 4.0-based shop of roughly 100 souls and even more PCs. The attorneys here are big-time entertainment deal-makers (and no, they don’t do litigation). A large part of my job is to make sure the right files are in the right locations on our network. Which leads me to the following issue.

I’m curious to learn what, if anything, you might know about the reason(s) behind the slow, withering demise of Symantec’s Norton NT File Manager.

Here’s WHAT I know about that product in an oversized nutshell, but not WHY:

In 1996 or possibly a bit earlier Symantec released Norton NT Tools 1.0, written specifically for NT 3.51. By far the most useful part of this suite of utilities was Norton NT File Manager. Norton NT File Manager had a few bugs, but the thorough collection of features more than made up for it. No other file manager product I’ve seen since for Windows approached its searching and sorting functionality. One could perform copy operations while preserving NTFS permissions. It combined the raw NT File Manager approach to files and directories with a Windows Explorer-like interface, but without the latter’s heavily-interpretive view of files and directories. Embedded in the tree pane was a nifty ftp site browser, complete with ftp addresses of major companies. My bacon has been rescued from the flames many times with its use. I’m not alone in these opinions. Various postings to public Symantec newsgroups apparently shared both my enthusiasm and my distress at Symantec’s dropping the product.

Following the initial release of Norton NT Tools 1.0, Symantec chose to ignore the File Manager program. To the best of my knowledge no further versions were released beyond a minor couple of updated DLLs. The product still manages to work under NT 4.0 SP4, but one must allow for slow refresh, browsing, and inaccurate partition size information when the partition is over 3 GB.

Symantec has simply dropped other great products off their corporate cliff this way, haven’t they? They buy a great product, and then give up on it! Why? Joel Cook of Symantec (jcook@symantec.com) bravely held up Symantec’s end of the Netcom newsgroup symantec.support.winnt.nttools.general, gently deflecting criticism and questions by end-users, but not providing any real explanations. At this moment on Netcom’s news servers, several Norton Utilities newsgroups are still listed, but there almost NO messages whatsoever, and NONE for the NT Tools newsgroup. As a matter of fact, there was only ONE message for all of Symantec’s NT utilities newsgroups on Netcom’s news servers. Perhaps Symantec is giving up on the entire Norton Utilities line. Sigh.

After coming to realize Symantec wasn’t going to fix or improve on their file manager for NT, I started looking around for a replacement, but the pickings have been slim.

In about the spring of 1998 Mijenix Corporation (http://www.mijenix.com) released a competing product called Power Desk Utilities 98, which includes a file manager called simply PowerDesk. Because the PowerDesk 98 file manager is heavily integrated with Windows NT Explorer, it suffers all the instability, bugs, and many of the same limitations, such as the limit of 10,000 of the number of files which can be returned in a single search. Worse, PowerDesk adds many of its own bugs to the mix. One of the worst is that the NetBIOS names that appear next to drive letter mappings in the tree pane are often the wrong names, only refreshing properly upon exiting PowerDesk and loading a new instance. As you can imagine, that sort of bug can be quite dangerous, if one unwittingly remotely makes changes to one PC thinking it’s another.

PowerDesk doesn’t come close having the capabilities that Norton NT File Manager has. It’s basically Windows Explorer "Plus". In usefulness it lies about halfway between Windows NT 4.0 Explorer and Norton NT File Manager. However, it lacks columns for sorting by the file properties Last Accessed and Created On. Although one can view this information down to the directory level for local drives via Size Manager, and via the properties pages of individually highlighted files. One CAN however SEARCH on these file properties. Go figure. PowerDesk also lacks the ability to set popup confirmation for drag-and-drop mouse operations - as Windows NT Explorer has the same "feature". When questioned on these and other issues, Mijenix tech support usually responds that these are really limitations of NT Explorer, on which PowerDesk is based. True perhaps, but besides the point.

Mijenix claims in its online advertising for PowerDesk to be "rescuing" users of Norton NT File Manager abandoned by Symantec. As of this writing, the PowerDesk v. 3.03 file manager Dr Watsons quite frequently, crashing the Explorer shell, a problem Mijenix attributes to changes made to Explorer.exe in Service Pack 4 for NT 4.0. They have provided a registry hack in the meantime, but there are many other less severe bugs that are not being dealt with in a timely manner. So we continue to use Norton NT File Manager, warts and all.

To reiterate, do you have any specific thoughts about Symantec’s decision-making process in this matter? Learning the true reasons may cast light on apparently similar actions by other companies such as Seagate, who bought other companies’ tape backup software and basically neglected them.

In a more productive vein, do you know of any reliable third-party file manager products for Windows NT other than the two I’ve described?

A heartfelt thanks for the years of obvious effort you’ve put in documenting your work with computers. I don’t know how you avoid burning out, especially with the forced accelerating pace of software and hardware "upgrades". Just driving the four hours to Comdex from L.A. two years ago wore me out, and you say you’ve been to EVERY Comdex. Since I slowly moved up in this firm from a file clerk in 1991 to a systems engineer in all but title (I’m leery of using titles with "engineer" as I never got any sort of engineering B.S), I’ve had to struggle daily to tame the bug-ridden realities resulting from Microsoft’s unfortunate business philosophies. Yes, the money’s good, but it’s hard to continue getting satisfaction from the work. In the interest of stability, we try to avoid any version of Windows other than NT 4.0, and settle on specific versions of applications as long as possible. But it’s getting much tougher to make more than the most minor increases in productivity happen, when companies like Microsoft keep forcing the ground to shift under one’s feet. On the other hand, what I really prefer to do, namely designing and building mobile autonomous robots, is STILL fun, although I expect it’s only a matter of a few years before the Bill Gates of consumer robots breaks out of his or her garage.

Last comment - The Mote in God’s Eye remains one of my favorite novels. In particular the unique ways in which the various Motie castes redefined intelligence was quite thought-provoking. I’m looking forward to The Burning City.

Sincerely,

Chris Pierik

Network Assistant

Ziffren, Brittenham, Branca &; Fischer LLP

> Email: ChrisP@ZBBF.com

 

I have never understood the Symantec decision process. They seem more willing to buy a new company than to support, expand, and exploit some of the wonderful products they have. Commander is one of them; to this day I used Commander in preference to any other simple file manager, and the DOS version has readers that will handle any file whatever. I don't understand why they don't put a good team on making the Windows Commander even better. It shouldn't even be difficult.

Mijenix has done some good work, but I agree, if Symantec got File Manager and Commander going right they'd own a big chunk of market. I don't know why they don't do that

This site is hosted at binmedia, a service owned by Darnell Gadsberry. We have been intending to get the Front Page Extensions running on the server that hosts this site but it has not happened due largely to other things having a higher priority. Then that happens we can get the search engine going. Front Page has quite a nice search engine.

Whatever you used to send this letter please do not send any other formatted that way. It has hidden bullet markers or something of the sort so that if pasted into Front Page from what looks like a normal WORD document I get > and other such stuff embedded into the text. Whatever it was you did, please don't. I very nearly gave up on beating it into some kind of shape, and the only reason I did was stubborness, which of course costs me a lot of time. I haven't had a letter that took this long to bash into shape, at least not for weeks. Your fancy formatting system is, I fear, far too sophisticated for me...

Thanks for the kind words.

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Jerry-

I am running Win98 and Outlook 98. I can export the entire "Personal Folders" to a backup file while outlook is running as follows:

Click File on the menu bar, click Import and Export, select Export to a file, click Next, select the Personal folder file (.pst), click Next, select the highest level Personal Folders, check Include subfolders, Click Next, enter the desired path and file name (mine defaults to a backup.pst file in a windows subdirectory), choose the desired duplicates handling option, click Finish. It’s not real fast, but it works for me.

To compact the empty space in the Personal Folders file (outlook.pst), in the folder list right click the Personal Folders (highest level), click Properties for "Personal Folders", click Advanced..., click Compact Now. Voila!

BTW- I couldn’t agree with you more about the single file design. I can’t wait to see how to achieve the corporate configuration.

Meanwhile, I can’t get my Outlook to archive at all. It goes through the process but nothing is moved to the Archive.pst file. Alas, maybe software was meant to be written by the gods and not us mere mortals.<G>

 

Good Luck.

Brooks Clark

bclark@csi.com

Interesting. My archives seem to work. I know you can export the whole mess for safety, but that isn't what I was after; I wanted to be able to have it all backed up at night without having to close Outlook, but I can't. I'm still looking at the "corporate" installation and deciding my head isn't up to it today. I have to catch an airplane tomorrow, and there's just too much else to do.

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I guess reader comments so far mean you probably won’t have to contact Microsoft about Outlook after all.

If you do, I wish you would add 2 items to your list.

1) Each time the Outlook calendar is opened, it always puts you at the start of the workday, unlike Schedule Plus, which always put you at the current time. At 3:00 in the afternoon, I don’t need to see what I did at 8:00 in the morning, and it’s a pain to have to frequently scroll down to the current time in order to check the next item on the agenda. Why Microsoft is so insistent on re-inventing the wheel each generation is a mystery to me. There seems to be little carry-over of the niceties of Schedule Plus into Outlook—although, admittedly, the promise of Outlook is better.

2) Outlook’s Contacts allows you to create ‘user-defined fields’. This, I thought, would be a very handy way to change the addressee line for Christmas card envelopes if one needs to be addressed a little differently—like including a spouse or family. I could then export all the Christmas contacts to a mail merge file, and use that added field for family addressees where necessary. Guess what?!! Outlook doesn’t export user-defined fields. Brilliant! Then why even have it?

-- Chuck Waggoner [waggoner@gis.net]

Thanks. I am making a list of Outlook annoyances to present to the Microsoft product managers, whom I am assured I have access to when I have something to say. I don't generally try to annoy people until I have my ducks in a row, so I'm collecting war stories on Outlook now.

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I am beginning to believe there is no question I cannot get answered within hours simply by asking here or in View! Here is Pidgen Revealed:

Dear Jerry,

Pidgen.dll is involved in validating the CD-Key when installing Win 98.

Your correspondent may find this URL useful: http://www.listmaker.net/win98/

 

Incidentally, what earthly use does the CD-Key serve? If you have the CD, you have the key. If you’ve copied the CD, surely you’ve copied the key too!

regards

David Cefai [davcefai@keyworld.net]

And THANKS!

I agree on those keys. Today I had to reinstall Windows 98 on my wife's system Scarlet; the symptoms were that it would crash whenever we tried to invoke Windows HELP, which, given her beginner status, was disconcerting. (I confess I never tried help when I set her machine up.) The reinstall worked, but I had to go dig up the keys. Of course I had it on Windows/Options/Cabs so I suppose asking for a key made a little more sense under the circumstances. But one reason people like to hate Microsoft is that they do seem to go out of the way to annoy paying customers in order to get back at thieves. While I have no love for thieves of intellectual property -- how could I? -- it seems there must be some balance in inconvenience to legitimate users for protection of one's property. And I think Microsoft has gone too far...

>pidgen.dll

A little bit of looking on the web reveals that pidgen.dll is indeed a bona-fide windows component, distributed in precopy1.cab. As such, it is a resource used in the installation procedure--in fact, one finds it cited in the illegal instructions that circulate around about how to hack WIN 98 to bypass the product key. If it's not found on installed systems, I suppose the install routine deletes it when done.

A bad one could undoubtably cause installation havoc.

Mike Juergens (mikejuer@netnitco.net)

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I saw the remark in the view about restarting in order to get chkdsk to actually fix the file. I should have remembered that, sorry! You asked about why it runs like that. I can’t answer completely, but I do know that NT chkdsk must dismount the drive in order to fix (as in /f) it. That means that you can run chkdsk /f x: as long an no process is accessing drive x. Since the system drive is always accessed by the system while the system is running, it cannot be dismounted, and thefore chkdsk cannot fix it. Instead, it tells you that it can schedule autochk for the next boot if you want.

There is a theme here: The reason you cannot backup an Outlook PST while Outlook is running is that Outlook opens the PST as an ordinary disk file for exclusive access. Consequently, no other process, including your backup program or even another instance of Outlook on an another computer can access it.

That last fact is quite a consternation for Lockheed Martin users. Many of the engineers are matrixed to several projects, and may visit several workstations. The problem is that they like to be able to access thier mail from any machine that they are using. This is complicated by our legal department’s requirement that e-mail cannot be kept on e-mail servers for longer than 90 days. You would think that the solution would be to hot the user’s PST’s on file servers, but noooo. PST’s can only be access by one computer at a time, so if you leave you e-mail client up on one machine, you can’t open your PST from any other.

I’m not sure that you can fault Microsoft since you wouldn’t want to allow multiple write access to an ordinary file, no matter how smart Outlook is. In that case, you need a client/server PST (...which would be an Exchange server ;-) I could see the possibility of being clever about it, and allowing read-only access to second and subsequent opens, but that would be an architectural change to Outlook, and not likely to get high priority over bug fixes. Also, switching to non-exclusive read access when not writing may still cause you backup program to skip the file (they generally skip all open files).

There is a musch better solution to this problem, but I’m going to devote another letter to that.

Sorry if this is tiresome,

-Jay

jay.ward@lmco.com

I would have surmised most of that, but it is well to have it definitely stated. Thanks. I'd have more but I'm due on a plane in the morning early and I wanted to get this up now.

 

 

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Sunday March 21, 1999

A Linux Case History

Greetings, Dr. Pournelle.

I am a regular purchaser of your fiction - just finished re-reading "Lucifer’s Hammer" - and often check your web site. Since the discussion has hit on Linux several times, I thought I’d chime in.

In the normal work world, I have responsibility for my locations network infrastructure and services. We have been using Linux for several years for a variety of tasks. Here’s a quick run down:

Our internal web and e-mail services are provided by an obsolete Sun SPARC 2 with 32 Mb of memory and 1.4 Gb of disk space. At one time, this was a hot CAD platform. I resurrected it 1.5 years ago for its present duty, and it has been flawless since. Uptime is measured in months - its reboot cycle is based on when we have to move it, since no one really wants to provide space for it. The only hiccups are when people receive really large e-mail attachments, on the order of 20-30 Mb. Since the machines physical memory is pretty low, processing huge MIME attachments really slows things to a crawl, but even then it doesn’t crash.

Our internal DNS server is another SPARC 2, although this one has a Weitek clock-doubled CPU and 64 Mb of memory. Again, its reboot cycle is based on when we have to move it for floor space changes.

Our primary activity at this location is product design for the Automotive industry. Just as we supply assemblies to the big 2.5 US car companies, we have suppliers of small components. Most of these companies are small enough that the automotive-mandated CAD and communication setups are out of their reach monetarily. This results in our having to provide part data to them in IGES form. To accomplish this, we set up a bulletin board system on a cast-off PC running Linux, and named it Datatrans. Since this system was available, and since PC hardware is cheap, its capabilities and tasks are all out of proportion to the money we spent on it. Currently, Datatrans is a two-line BBS, print server for a network of 30 various Unix systems and Windows PC’s, plot server for the same, and intermittent dial-in server for remote network maintenance. It also supports one of those quick workarounds that becomes semi-permanent - when two $30k Hewlett Packard workstations were shy of disk space, we added a 3 Gb hard drive to Datatrans and set it up for NFS sharing. Again, uptime on this system is measured in months. The only problems it has evidenced have been hardware failures. Not bad for a Pentium 100 with 32 Mb of RAM!

We’ve recently added a database server running Linux and MySQL to replace a FoxPro application running on a Novell server. This machine has some horsepower - dual Pentium II’s at 400 Mhz, 256 Mb of memory, mirrored 4.5 Gb ultrawide SCSI drives, and a partridge in a pear tree. A full Red Hat install and configure runs in under 15 minutes - I know because we’ve tried several Linux distributions on it. We have comparable systems running Windows NT that take upwards of 2 hours to install and configure. The system’s speed is incredible, and it’s stability has been fabulous - four weeks, new applications, and zero hiccups.

I could go on for quite a while - we are one department of a relatively large company that uses other operating systems for the tasks listed above, at greater cost and with lower reliability. I’m also ignoring the Corel NetWinder this is being composed on, and the Linux-based network monitoring and X-Windows terminals we use. Hopefully, my point came across in all this long-winded blather. Linux certainly requires considerable Unix expertise, but we already had that. In the right situations, it is absolutely magical.

Chuck Stuart [stuartc@desctr.buddcompany.com]

Chuck Stuart The Budd Company

Supv., Structural Design Design Center

Network Manager Troy, MI U.S.A.

Thank you. That seems to be the experience of many readers.

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W98 install problems: missing msgsrv2.exe and pidgen.dll

Jerry;

I meant to write this up a while ago but have never gotten around to it. Now I wish I had. I may have saved some trouble.

I recently had to reformat/reinstall on my system due to a full C drive (which wasn’t cured by uninstalling software) and other system instabilities. I thought while I was at it, I would fdisk my c drive as FAT32. Alas, the install would not work, exhibiting many of the same problems described by Meotto Auro [meotto@cli.di.unipi.it]. After the first reboot during the install various files would be missing or I would get errors about invalid format, etc.

After several tries, I re-fdisk’ed as FAT16. The install went off without a hitch. I was then able to use the Drive Converter to change to FAT32 and have been running without problems since. [Note: Drive Converter is not installed by default. You must select custom install, go into system tools and select it].

I have no explaination, but I too am running older hardware (P166, 2G boot hd, 9G hd divided into 5 partitions due to bios limitation, 128M ram). It seems too incredible to think that Microsofts own W98 install program chokes on FAT32, which makes me think it may have something to do with older drive/controller/bios.

Ric

ric@rdfrost.com

 

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rdfrost@yahoo.com

http://www.rdfrost.com

Interesting. I didn't have THAT problem. Hmm. I'm just off an airplane and my brain isn't working all that well. I'll have to think on this.

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Dear Dr. Pournelle:

How is this for a little Outlook problem: Suddenly Outlook will not download an email over about 8k for me any longer! I get a message that the email is "too large to be cached" and "only header is downloaded." For the life of me I can’t figure out how to change this, as far as I can tell there is no way to increase the cache. If you or anyone seeing this has a clue about this I’d love to know.

David Yerka

 

leshawrk@megatrondata.com

Anyone got an explanation for THAT?

I had something similar to this happen several months ago. I ran the

scanpst.exe tool in the \Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office folder (also

accessible as the "Inbox Repair Tool). It found a bunch of errors in the

main .pst file, which it repaired. The error went away and OL started

working normally.

Robert Bruce Thompson

thompson@ttgnet.com

http://www.ttgnet.com

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It seems that the word ‘undelete’ is also a registered trademark.

The boys at sysinternals.com have run into their own problem.

Their web site is:

http://www.sysinternals.com/undelete.htm

 

Which explains why their NTFS file undelete program has been renamed to "FunDelete for Windoes NT".

By the way, if you need *any* sticky utilities for Windoes NT (or 95/98), I’d recommend the programs available from www.sysinternals.com. Very Good Stuff.

Cheers.

ckuhlman@Bix.Com

Chuck Kuhlman

Thanks. I'll go have a look.

 

 

 

 

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